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Old Jun 21, 2010 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Camaro Zach
sure they "should" be, but their not... Headers are made out of tubing and not pipe. Tubing is measured by the OD and Pipe is measured by the ID. Sure it would be nice for them to be measured and advertised by the ID since that is where all the flow is but it just makes things even more confusing. Especially for anyone working in an industry that deals with OD's and ID's day in and day out.
Originally Posted by Matt@Texas-Speed
Whether they are supposed to be or not, every Gen3/4 LSx header that has come through thsi shop has been measured OD....I just now verified this on Pacesetter, Kooks, ARH, and Dynatech headers to be sure. The only ones that varied slightly were the TSP coated headers and Pacesetters due the slight extra thickness of the coating....the stainless headers were all spot on by the OD. AND....Not only do the primaries measure correctly by the OD, so do the collectors!
Then why did my Thorley Tri-Y's spec out to the advertised 1-5/8" and hirdlej's headers spec out to the advertised 1-7/8"? Again, EVERY set of old school SBC headers that I've dealt with had their i.d. spec out to the advertised measurement, so the discrepancy with modern stuff doesn't make sense.
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Old Jun 21, 2010 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by TGriz
just a thought but have you considered getting o2 sensor bungs welded in up stream a little to improve the readings and eliminate that code?
No I have not. Reason being that they are as close to the 4 into 1 merge area as they can be right now. The only real slow reacting area of the O2 sensor range is at idle, which code is now "tuned out", so it's not really a worry, just set the MIL light a few intermittent times until I turned off those particular codes.

As for the whole ID vs. OD debate going on, all I can tell you is that I measured and passed along the true INSIDE diameter measurement, strictly for informational purposes in this thread. I guess if we are supposed to go by OUTSIDE diameters on header tubes, than these are 1-3/4".
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Old Jun 21, 2010 | 07:55 PM
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But just for the record, and to clarify MY actual inside diameter measurement...

The Ebay seller advertises these headers as 1-3/4" INSIDE DIAMETER, as per their auction picture, which is NOT correct...

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Old Jun 21, 2010 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by rel3rd
But just for the record, and to clarify MY actual inside diameter measurement...

The Ebay seller advertises these headers as 1-3/4" INSIDE DIAMETER, as per their auction picture, which is NOT correct...

Ive yet to see a header this nice for this price. Why Pay more??
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Old Jun 21, 2010 | 08:17 PM
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Ive yet to see a header this nice for this price. Why Pay more??
My thoughts exactly.
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Old Jun 21, 2010 | 10:22 PM
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Has anyone else had a sealing problem around the collectors? I'm getting a loud annoying tick coming from the collector area, but I don't feel any leaks or see any black marks. How tight did yall get that donut gasket? I have about 1/4 inch all the way around the flange.
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Old Jun 22, 2010 | 01:05 AM
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Will these headers mount up to a preexisting catback setup or will I need a new system aft?
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Old Jun 22, 2010 | 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by dlt76028
Has anyone else had a sealing problem around the collectors? I'm getting a loud annoying tick coming from the collector area, but I don't feel any leaks or see any black marks. How tight did yall get that donut gasket? I have about 1/4 inch all the way around the flange.
I just snugged mine real good , no probs bud.

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Will these headers mount up to a preexisting catback setup or will I need a new system aft?
Yes, i had my Summit 3'' cat back installed, bolted right up.
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Old Jun 22, 2010 | 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by dlt76028
Has anyone else had a sealing problem around the collectors? I'm getting a loud annoying tick coming from the collector area, but I don't feel any leaks or see any black marks. How tight did yall get that donut gasket? I have about 1/4 inch all the way around the flange.
Mine leaked when I first put them on. I went back after a quick drive to let everything settle in and re-tightened everything. The leak sealed after that. I did find that all 3 flange bolts should be the same tightness all around, by that I mean even gap between the flanges.

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Will these headers mount up to a preexisting catback setup or will I need a new system aft?
These bolted right up to the exact same location as my stock exhaust. I didn't have to move or redo my aftermarket setup. I am having a sealing problem at the ball and cup joint or whatever it's called. I am just going to cut the section out and put in an electric cutout.
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Old Jun 22, 2010 | 09:33 AM
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Does his add say ID? Or is it just that drawing? The average consumer wouldnt flinch at that drawing and would just assume it means the primary is 1.75", without giving that much attention to ID vs OD measurements. If they drew that line up on the primary a few inches after the flange, they'd just get a ton of calls asking what size they were and what the drawing meant (I say this from experience, they'd call about that one).
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