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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 09:01 PM
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If you want to do the AN route this is a better block IMO than the lingenfelter piece, it has a thermostat in it so your oil can still get over the boiling point to burn off condensation in the oil
https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...r-adapter.html
Or you could keep the factory oil cooler stuff and get your supply from the oil sensor with this adapter(hes a sponsor on tech)
http://www.kurturbanperformance.com/...t-adapter.html
He has also done a ton of research on the good ole #7 problem and came up with this cool doohicky
http://www.kurturbanperformance.com/...or-system.html
FYI Kurt Urban used to be the big wheel at Wheel to Wheel and the main engine builder so he may know a thing or 100
Id use these instead of zip ties to hold your fuel lines
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-G1882/

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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeyGC5
Thats the block on my HD truck that I used for my turbo feed, just drill into and tap for an fitting. I used the Lingenfelter adaptor on a buddies f-body and it worked out well.
Yup, it's an HD block. I have the HD radiator and oil cooler block for my truck. Got any pics or diagram of how and where you plan on tapping that block? Ideally I'd rather do that, I'd hate to have to spend another $200-300 on new Oil cooler lines that I already have.

Originally Posted by vicalma03
Why can't you use the factory oil cooler lines/block?? That's what I planned on using as a feed.
Can you explain a bit more Vic?
If by factory you mean not the HD block, I don't have a "factory" oil cooler line/block. The HD is all that I have
Are you still planning on using an oil cooler? I know Jarrett wasn't running one on his truck and he didn't have any problems to speak of.

Originally Posted by charcold-bowtie
I would just cut those hard lines, use them to get into the radiator, and go to your SS hose, thats what I did.

Or figure out what thread they are at a harware store, and order the proper AN fitting to get out of the radiator
You talking about tapping into the hard lines and getting my feed from there? I guess that could work too.

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If you want to do the AN route this is a better block IMO than the lingenfelter piece, it has a thermostat in it so your oil can still get over the boiling point to burn off condensation in the oil
https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...r-adapter.html
Or you could keep the factory oil cooler stuff and get your supply from the oil sensor with this adapter(hes a sponsor on tech)
http://www.kurturbanperformance.com/...t-adapter.html
He has also done a ton of research on the good ole #7 problem and came up with this cool doohicky
http://www.kurturbanperformance.com/...or-system.html
FYI Kurt Urban used to be the big wheel at Wheel to Wheel and the main engine builder so he may know a thing or 100
Id use these instead of zip ties to hold your fuel lines
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-G1882/
That's alot of good info man! I really like that Oil sender feed unit from Kurt. I've actually talked with him before, that guy's legit!!!
So I guess right now, the leading candidates are to either tap the HD block and thread in the proper nipple so as to work with the turbo feed line that I already have set-up, or go with the Kurt Urban Oil sender unit. If I do the latter I'm gonna have to do some mods on my fuel system again as I just barely left enough room to clip in the plug into the sender, not much room for a spacer like that but it might be worth it!

Thanks, man!
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 09:50 PM
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These are pretty cool too, if you use the clamps linked to clamp one line to the frame then use these
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/MFY-20-65219/
to clamp the two lines together, looks pretty trick

If only I had the money I could have a really cool truck
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 11:00 PM
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kurt even has better coolant head flow devices than that. just have to read in between the lines

probably not applicable or needed on a street vehicle
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Old Jan 21, 2011 | 02:19 AM
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Originally Posted by 1slow01Z71
He has also done a ton of research on the good ole #7 problem and came up with this cool doohicky
http://www.kurturbanperformance.com/...or-system.html
Wow, a larger steam tube set-up.... I wonder if anyone has tried it...

Check out my oil cooler set-up again, I just flared the factory cooler lines where they would normally enter the radiator, then bent them around the rad. and "T"ed of the cold side for the turbo feed.
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Old Jan 21, 2011 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Spoolin
Yup, it's an HD block. I have the HD radiator and oil cooler block for my truck. Got any pics or diagram of how and where you plan on tapping that block? Ideally I'd rather do that, I'd hate to have to spend another $200-300 on new Oil cooler lines that I already have.

I just drilled straight across from the rearward hole. Drill and tap for an 1/8NPT and I used a 90 degree -4an to 1/8NPT fitting.
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Old Jan 21, 2011 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Spoolin
... I'm sure there's a handful of ways to do it but the method that I ended up using was...
-Jusco Paint/Epoxy stripper (Credit due to Lee "SLOXCAB" for coming up with that idea)
-Paint Brush
-Scrapper
-Brillo pad
-Squirt bottle full of 91 Octane gas. ...

...



Note of warning, the Paint/Epoxy remover will eat through anything not metal so don't touch anything else, such as wiring harness, clips, body of the truck, etc... Here's what it did the the plastic container I had initially used, I did not think it would eat it as fast as it did but it melted it in about 15-20 minutes.

...
A few comments. I see u made your own d/s loop. I wanna come up w/. somethin even if I'm nowhere near your power level.

On driver's side, that j-shaped hook that holds the brake cables. I tried to kept a gradual radius in my cables but not have it hang down too low, asi t bugs the **** outta me. I came up w/. nothing but careful placement, & my brake cable sheathing has worn thru in parts.

In the 3rd pic I quoted, do u (still) have that lil brkt in the extreme right of pic?

Originally Posted by Spoolin
I did take it to the track a while back but it wasn't anything great. The motor that I had in there was a low compression motor that I beat to death when it had been previously boosted. Turns out I had detonated one whole bank of that motor to death! ... I had some serious blow-by and melted a few of the forged pistons because of it! ... It still was able to chug itself down the track at 14.0 @ 104mph. It had a lot of top end!
Now u have me concerned on my factory slugs when I boost it this yr. :nunchuk1:

Originally Posted by Spoolin
As far as the turbo Q goes: I would assume your referring to the Log Style manifolds that KBRacing and Trick produce. And if that's the case you bring up an old debate of log vs. Tubular. They each have their pro's and con's but the general consensus is that Tubular manifolds out-perform logs. DON'T take that as saying that logs don't work because that simply isn't true. I think Parish, Stock48 and many others have proven that time and again.
There's lots of reasons, some real good some not as good as to why one out-performs the other. And I'm sure some will be quick to argue with some of the points, however...

*Taken from Garrett's web-site*
General design tips for best overall performance on designing Hot Parts (regardless of if it's a log or a tubular set-up) are:
  • Maximize the radius of the bends that make up the exhaust primaries to maintain pulse energy
  • Make the exhaust primaries equal length to balance exhaust reversion across all cylinders
  • Avoid rapid area changes to maintain pulse energy to the turbine
  • At the collector, introduce flow from all runners at a narrow angle to minimize "turning" of the flow in the collector
  • For better boost response, minimize the exhaust volume between the exhaust ports and the turbine inlet
  • For best power, tuned primary lengths can be used

By looking at that list and looking at the design of each type of manifold you can see why most people think Tubular design is a much better and much more efficient design. And it's also why you'll mostly see tubular manifolds on race cars. ...

That bed-liner stuff, is it a roll on application? I'm also wondering if how much that stuff would weigh. Not to sound ridiculous but it's what an eighth of an inch thick and mostly made of rubber no? ...
usabodyguard,... that gig starts first week in Jan - i need a room! Huh?

While I know u went w/. POR...
Bed liner coating is just gonnna be rubberized undercoating, roll on or sprayed. Too heavy, esp. @ 1/8"think. Gotta think, paint is apx. 8# /gal.
1 coat of paint of POR will be fine, I think it's not really designed for 2 coats, plus it just adds weight.

What does "As soon as I get it running, I'm gonna find a local ricer shop and say hello...the Odessa Texas way!!" mean?

Originally Posted by Spoolin
... First off, here's the motor and tranny...



The transmission is the same FLT 4L80-e Lvl-5 that I've been using the last few years.

So the problem that arose was with the cross-member that's just aft of the rack and pinion. No matter what kind of finagling we could come up with we couldn't get the oil pan over it without having the heads hit the firewall. We even pulled the valve covers but to no avail. So instead of separating the two we just pulled that cross-member out and hung the motor in place right above the motor mounts and re-installed the cross-member before dropping the motor onto the mounts. I was a bit reluctant to do it because pulling that cross-member because of what it supports and what's connected to it but all-in-all it turned out alright. ...

However I'm still not in the clear yet as I'm gonna end up having to pull the oil pan off the motor. ...

I have a replacement windshield wiper tank that has a meth pump in it and will install that instead. ...
Pulling the oil pan sucks, just cause your hand won't fit to tighten the oil pickup tube bolt after replacing timing chain.; esp. if u overtorque 1 of those long m6 bolts at rear & snap off in block. So I've heard; ask me how I know.

What's w/. the replacemt. windshield wiper tank w/. meth tank in it. Explain please.

Originally Posted by Spoolin
-8 AN feed, Y-split and feed the back of the rails. Gonna try to mount the FPR up front right next to the TB so the front of the rails can feed right into it and then go with a -6 AN return. Not sure if I have room for the FPR up there with some of the hot parts, coolant cross-over tubes and what not but I don't want a spider's web of fuel lines like I had last time.

I could/can, but for the PVC system that I have set-up won't work as well with stock valve covers. The ones I have have a -8 Bung welded on them, and I have some lines that will run from the valve covers to an electric vane pump.
Originally Posted by Atomic
I feed mine through the front and have the rear of the rails feeding the regulator on the firewall.
Either way should look sano, especially when u were unhappy w/. your old "spiderweb" setup, Jules.

Originally Posted by Spoolin
What wire gauge do I need for the following?
Twin Fuel pump power supply: (I'm guessing 10)
Battery ground:
Regular harness stuff(sensors and such):
Like said, go w/. big gauge battery cable, nothin smaller than 4 ga.; neg. side can be short as necessary. Welding cable isn't real pliable in colder climates. Yes, I looked into this. The good stuff isn't cheap.

Unlike jared91, I read thru 27 pgs., & didn't change my pants once. Now I'm up to speed after being gone since Dec. 11; and I started w/. your thread. I'll try to minimize my multi-quotes. Nice what I've seen so far.
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Old Jan 21, 2011 | 06:02 PM
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Oh ya, Adel clamps are rubber isolated for lines & such. No, they're not cheap, but it'll be right. Also, look at those big fuel pump rubber isolated hangers for your pump / or was it your filter. Some AN wrenches -4 thru -12 would help keep your fittings pretty. Oh ya, not to be critical. I don't care if u have a in your engine bay, but when u show pic from pass. side, near valve covers, my eyes go right to that nasty paint scratched dipstick tube. Hit it w/. some black. That was buggin me, sorry; I know my bay wins no prize, but I'm not in sunny CA either.
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Old Jan 21, 2011 | 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by fastnblu
... but when u show pic from pass. side, near valve covers, my eyes go right to that nasty paint scratched dipstick tube. Hit it w/. some black. That was buggin me, ...
Me, too. I am reading this thread under protest until that gets fixed!
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Old Jan 22, 2011 | 04:41 AM
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Originally Posted by fastnblu
In the 3rd pic I quoted, do u (still) have that lil brkt in the extreme right of pic?
Probably, I don't make it a habit to anything away that I might need. Why you want it?

Originally Posted by fastnblu
What does "As soon as I get it running, I'm gonna find a local ricer shop and say hello...the Odessa Texas way!!" mean?
If you check his recent vids you'll see a rolling burn-out he did in front of a ricer shop that Nelson knows. I guess it's a thing between Nelson Racing and this ricer shop where they do burnouts in front of each other's shop. Check his vid out and it'll make more sense.


Originally Posted by fastnblu
What's w/. the replacemt. windshield wiper tank w/. meth tank in it. Explain please.
I bought WildeRacing's old methanol set up which untilizes a meth tank in place of the wiper fluid tank. Has pump and senders and what not. Kinda neat, nothing unique but yeah...kinda neat.

Originally Posted by fastnblu
Oh ya, not to be critical. I don't care if u have a in your engine bay, but when u show pic from pass. side, near valve covers, my eyes go right to that nasty paint scratched dipstick tube. Hit it w/. some black. That was buggin me, sorry; I know my bay wins no prize, but I'm not in sunny CA either.
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Me, too. I am reading this thread under protest until that gets fixed!
Engine dips stick or tranny dip stick? If it's the tranny dip stick, not to worry fella's, it's the sticker from the price tag, haven't rubbed it all the way off yet. If it's the engine dip-stick...yeah I might have to re-coat it!
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