GM Engine & Exhaust Performance EFI | GEN I/GEN II/GEN III/GEN IV Engines |Small Block | Big Block |

Throttle body not clean anymore! Oil Catch?

Old May 12, 2009 | 04:32 PM
  #1  
dirtydog's Avatar
Thread Starter
Teching In
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 33
Likes: 0
From: Bowling Green. KY
Default Throttle body not clean anymore! Oil Catch?

Just cleaned the throttle body a while back and the milage went up about 3mpg or so. After a third tank mileage is back down to 16, ordered a oil catch can this weekend, hopefully it will help resolve the issue. I have read numerous post on the catch cans, but never really saw a clear answer on how it needs to be hooked up. I have a naturally aspirated 02, 5.3.. Does the can go before or after the pcv valve? I know it needs to be in line to the throttle body and does not need a breather due to vacuum. Which is right?
Reply
Old May 12, 2009 | 04:43 PM
  #2  
nonnieselman's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 14,068
Likes: 2
From: Crystal Springs, MS
Default

It goes After the PCV..

Run a hose from the PCV to the catch can, then a hose from the catch can to the Intake manifold.

What can did you get?
Ive been lookin for something but i dont want to spend too much money.
Reply
Old May 12, 2009 | 07:11 PM
  #3  
dirtydog's Avatar
Thread Starter
Teching In
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 33
Likes: 0
From: Bowling Green. KY
Default

I actually found a polished Weapon R for about $50 bucks shipped. They have a 24 oz and a 16 oz I believe. I got the 24. It is a universal fit. Appeared to be best for the money from what I was able to find. Weapon R is known for import stuff, but as long as it works I dont care!
Reply
Old May 12, 2009 | 07:21 PM
  #4  
nonnieselman's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 14,068
Likes: 2
From: Crystal Springs, MS
Default

mind PMing me a link??
Reply
Old May 13, 2009 | 03:43 PM
  #5  
chevrolet all the way's Avatar
TECH Addict
iTrader: (24)
 
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 2,615
Likes: 0
From: trussville alabama
Default

can you pm me that link? damn what a deal!
Reply
Old May 13, 2009 | 04:47 PM
  #6  
SilverDog's Avatar
TECH Regular
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 444
Likes: 0
From: Ohio
Default

I don't think you can go wrong with any style of catch can. As long as the intake and exhaust are divided by some type of barrier on the inside and the oil vapors have something to collect on. The best think to do is buy one that you can disassembly/modify. Here is a post up of the one I bought/modified even though I never really had an oil burning problem.
https://www.performancetrucks.net/fo...d.php?t=436990
I just recently picked up another cylindrical one from ebay (for my dad's truck) but it was cheaply made and didn't look like the picture so I complained and got 50% off. Ended up paying $15 which made it look a little better.
Reply
Old May 13, 2009 | 08:52 PM
  #7  
dirtydog's Avatar
Thread Starter
Teching In
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 33
Likes: 0
From: Bowling Green. KY
Thumbs up

SilverDog I saw your post on that when I was researching the subject. Hopefully this one is made so as to where I dont need to do that. $50 could go either way. Excellent post by the way.
Reply
Old May 14, 2009 | 06:35 PM
  #8  
dirtydog's Avatar
Thread Starter
Teching In
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 33
Likes: 0
From: Bowling Green. KY
Default

Well here ya go. Right now I have it mounted to the brake fluid res. with zip ties. I will eventually mount it with a bracket or something. As far as the hoses go, the ones that came with it are fairly soft. They kind of compress due to the vacuum. Think its a must to get some stiffer lines? The hose that originally came off the pcv valve was steel wrapped in foam.

Throttle body not clean anymore! Oil Catch?-dscn0948.jpg

Throttle body not clean anymore! Oil Catch?-dscn0949.jpg

Throttle body not clean anymore! Oil Catch?-dscn0950.jpg
Reply
Old May 14, 2009 | 08:08 PM
  #9  
budhayes3's Avatar
PT's Slowest Truck
iTrader: (19)
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 17,863
Likes: 2
From: Hackensack, NJ
Default

Definitely ditch that hose, looks like it will collapse under vacuum. Some good rubber fuel line style hose should do the trick.

BTW, even with the oil catch can, you will get some carbon build up in the throttle body, it's just a by product of the induction system, especially if your truck is equipped with EGR. But even without EGR some carbon buildup is to be expected. I usually clean my throttle body every 12k, or every time I have the intake tube off.
Reply
Old May 15, 2009 | 03:30 PM
  #10  
budhayes3's Avatar
PT's Slowest Truck
iTrader: (19)
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 17,863
Likes: 2
From: Hackensack, NJ
Default

Originally Posted by S/C Z71
Some silly non-sense that was removed by TurboBerserker
Dude, please stop mis-informing people. Unfortunately, excessive oil consumption through the PCV system of GM GenIII engines has been an ongoing problem since the conception of the LS1. GM has TSB's in reference to it, and has tried to combat the problem by replacing the conventional spring and plunger PCV with a fixed orifice style, that doesn't work. The problem lies within the design of the PCV system and the baffles in the valve cover. I recently read (in another thread) that GM is releasing updated valve covers with a different design baffle that's "supposed" to work (time will tell). Many guys run catch cans on their F-Bodies, Vettes, and trucks. I've been running one for years and get about a tablespoon of oil in it every 500-1000 miles. There's nothing wrong with my engine, this is just a characteristic of the GENIII PCV system design.

Do some research before posting what you "think" is right. Search around the LS1Tech internal section and the many informative threads here, you just might learn something.

Last edited by TurboBerserker; May 23, 2009 at 04:51 PM.
Reply

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:28 AM.