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Old Sep 14, 2006 | 09:57 PM
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Is it just me or does anyone elses vehicle feel much stronger in first gear if you shift it manually. I know that kinda sounds retarded since it starts in first and shifts at the same point anyway, but I can notice a difference. What gives, what is different when the selector is in 1 instead of 3rd?
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Old Sep 14, 2006 | 10:36 PM
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its all in your head. Your head is just FUBAR!!
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Old Sep 14, 2006 | 10:42 PM
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ok that does it....what does FUBAR stand for? fu*ked up beyond absolute repair? ha ha
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Old Sep 14, 2006 | 10:42 PM
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When the gear selector is in manual 3, 2, or 1. The overrun clutch is applied. Which keeps the output shaft from overrunning the input shaft. (engine braking).

Also, to note. Manual 2 keeps the transmission in 2nd, even when pulling out.
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Old Sep 14, 2006 | 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by RoninsDenali
When the gear selector is in manual 3, 2, or 1. The overrun clutch is applied. Which keeps the output shaft from overrunning the input shaft. (engine braking).

Also, to note. Manual 2 keeps the transmission in 2nd, even when pulling out.
areyou saying that when you put it in 2, it starts in 2 and doesnt leave? because im prettu sure the gear selector, just selects the maximum gear you want to allow, 2 you get 1 and 2....3 you start 1 go 2 then 3... and you are saying that when in manual selector area, you are enabling engine braking? sorry i didnt follow that part
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Old Sep 14, 2006 | 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Soon2bSpooled
ok that does it....what does FUBAR stand for? fu*ked up beyond absolute repair? ha ha
Fu*cked up beyond all recognition.
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Old Sep 14, 2006 | 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Soon2bSpooled
areyou saying that when you put it in 2, it starts in 2 and doesnt leave? because im prettu sure the gear selector, just selects the maximum gear you want to allow, 2 you get 1 and 2....3 you start 1 go 2 then 3... and you are saying that when in manual selector area, you are enabling engine braking? sorry i didnt follow that part

If i put my truck in 2 it takes off in 2. It does not got 1,2. It takes off like a dog. It is very noticable when trying to take off
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Old Sep 14, 2006 | 11:18 PM
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Yea, its setup to pullout in 2nd. Basically its for those wierd situtations where you dont want torque (slippery roads). Although, the PCM will override this when a WOT condition occurs.

And about the engine breaking. Without the Overrun clutch applied, assuming you are running downhill. The output shaft of the transmission can actually spin faster than the input shaft (faster, meaning faster than it should be given what gear its in) Reason for this ability is in the Forward Sprag. The overrun clutch prevents the sprag from "overrunning."

Overrun Clutch is applied in the following conditions:
- Manual First
- Manual Second
- Manual Third (not applied during first and second, only when in third)

Sorry if i'm not explaining it well, its one of those things its hard to explain unless you know how these transmissions work inside out. And i never understood it until i took my 4L65 apart and held everything in my own hands.
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Old Sep 14, 2006 | 11:22 PM
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Basically i think what he is saying is it levels the speeds but also puts the power through to areas instead of one.
I think thats what he said.......=/
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