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Old Mar 16, 2011 | 06:22 PM
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Can I throw in a circle d 278mm 3k stall in and run it without a tune for awhile? Im just curious since its such a mild converter if I can get away with it.
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Old Mar 16, 2011 | 07:07 PM
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i dont know if this helps but i am running a trail blazer converter and its not tuned for it with no problems.
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Old Mar 16, 2011 | 07:43 PM
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Wondering this myself.
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Old Mar 16, 2011 | 07:52 PM
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X3. I ordered a Yank TT3000 and plan on getting a tune right away but was just curious how long you can go without it and what affects will it have on it.
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Old Mar 16, 2011 | 07:52 PM
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I ran mine for about a week without my tune, but it is so much better with it. Only issue was low idle everything else was ok.
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Old Mar 16, 2011 | 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by greenz71
I ran mine for about a week without my tune, but it is so much better with it. Only issue was low idle everything else was ok.
What happened at low idle??
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Old Mar 16, 2011 | 08:20 PM
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The reduced weight of the aftermarket converters affect the idle and decel airflow because of the difference in what it was calibrated for originally. The weight difference also can make the pcm think it is misfiring (in relation to the idle issues). That can cause lockup-unlock issues, or a no lockup issue. With a looser converter you can usually squeeze some more timing out of it and the shift points really need to be modified. Reason is, the converter is looser, there will be some slip even in the upper rpms and you will be hitting that shift rpm sooner at a lower mph. So if your shifts are setup to have to meet rpm and mph requirements, it may cause an overrev if it sees the rpm requirement but has to rev say 200 rpm higher to hit the mph requirements.

With a 278mm, these side effects will be minimal BUT you could experience any of them.
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Old Mar 16, 2011 | 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Rhino79
The reduced weight of the aftermarket converters affect the idle and decel airflow because of the difference in what it was calibrated for originally. The weight difference also can make the pcm think it is misfiring (in relation to the idle issues). That can cause lockup-unlock issues, or a no lockup issue. With a looser converter you can usually squeeze some more timing out of it and the shift points really need to be modified. Reason is, the converter is looser, there will be some slip even in the upper rpms and you will be hitting that shift rpm sooner at a lower mph. So if your shifts are setup to have to meet rpm and mph requirements, it may cause an overrev if it sees the rpm requirement but has to rev say 200 rpm higher to hit the mph requirements.

With a 278mm, these side effects will be minimal BUT you could experience any of them.
Very well said sir, good info.

Chris
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Old Mar 16, 2011 | 09:06 PM
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been running my circle-d 2800 with no tune or issuses..I was told anything under a 3k and a tune is not needed
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Old Mar 17, 2011 | 05:41 AM
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Thanks for the info guys. Guess I will toss one in and see what happens
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