How far will 42#ers take me?
Oct 11, 2006 | 10:23 AM
#61
Originally Posted by TurboGibbs
Exactly, you are contradicting yourself by talking about trying to run 10's on a stock bottom end 6.0L in a 5600lb+ truck, running borderline small injectors, and running the maximum boost possible.
You run an engine on the ragged edge in a street vehicle and it will blow at sometime because there will be some point in time that that perfect situtuation you have it tuned for is going to go away without your control.
I'd suggest building it right the first time and keeping it conservative and you won't be breaking parts, that is no secret.
You run an engine on the ragged edge in a street vehicle and it will blow at sometime because there will be some point in time that that perfect situtuation you have it tuned for is going to go away without your control.
I'd suggest building it right the first time and keeping it conservative and you won't be breaking parts, that is no secret.
This is excellent advice. Over-built over-build over-build. Leave the ragged edge for full race vehicles.
Oct 11, 2006 | 10:28 AM
#62
Originally Posted by Blown06
What supporting equiptment is needed to run these 90+lb. injectors. Will the stock computer with Hptuners or efilive work?
If you do a versafueler, you tune as per normal.
Oct 11, 2006 | 10:36 AM
#63
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Oct 11, 2006 | 10:51 AM
#65
Originally Posted by dewmanshu
This is all very intersting to me. I always answer these fueling questions with the driveability and reliability in mind. Minus the top 10 fastest trucks here, cranking up the FP to 85psi to get 43lb'ers to make 617hp (as per the KB attachment) just isn't in the best interest of anybody. Nor will it be enough to feed Cody's desire to go 10 seconds in a 6L. What is the stats on how long these pumps are gonna last with that kind of voltage? Erik what is the IDC on 43's at 85psi? That's without meth. Cody I stick to my original post, 500 to 550. Why bother with something that is fuzzy or has a grey area unless you are okay with a short ending? KB says "...adequate for 560rwhp WITH the boost a pump." In reality going after 10's, you are gonna need more than a boost a pump and inline, but for now...Screw the boost a pump, get larger injectors and tune for them. You have an inline right? You'll have them when you'll need them and while you are trying to bust 10's you'll have enough fuel because the injectors aren't freaking open 100% of the time. Just seems this whole discussion would be better if you asked, "I am getting 96lbers, but I only want to put 600 to 700HP to the ground for now, what fuel support measures should I use? Boost a pump? Inline? Dual intank? Combinatin or all?" That's my unedumucated take on it at least.
stock LQ4, 60lb injectors, KB BAP, 10lbs of boost, 50shot of N2O
Oct 11, 2006 | 06:08 PM
#67
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Running it on the jagged edge woudl be for that one time deal at the track otherwise it will be turned way down for reliability that is what I am saying. I dont plan to max the damn thing out with a 300 shot or whatever all the time. I just wanted to see if I could push it to a 10 in its current form. The whole point of the thread was that I dont have the money for the versafueler and 96s right now so I wanted to know about what Im looking at hp wise with the 42s. I could always run the nitrous jetting rich to add a little more fuel also...
Oct 11, 2006 | 08:56 PM
#68
Originally Posted by moregrip
FWIW, a walbro intank fuel pump with a KB BAP has proven dead reliable for a bro of mine supporting 600rwhp-ish
stock LQ4, 60lb injectors, KB BAP, 10lbs of boost, 50shot of N2O
stock LQ4, 60lb injectors, KB BAP, 10lbs of boost, 50shot of N2O
parish i am only questioning the ridiculous stats of getting 85psi out of a fuel system via a boost a pump. I understand it more than likely won't fail due to over voltage, it's not constant, but a stock pump? why waste the space on paper to give such a stat. If somebody is getting 85psi out of a stock pump to feed 42's to get 620hp...trouble?
Oct 11, 2006 | 09:09 PM
#69
Originally Posted by 1slow01Z71
Running it on the jagged edge woudl be for that one time deal at the track otherwise it will be turned way down for reliability that is what I am saying. I dont plan to max the damn thing out with a 300 shot or whatever all the time. I just wanted to see if I could push it to a 10 in its current form. The whole point of the thread was that I dont have the money for the versafueler and 96s right now so I wanted to know about what Im looking at hp wise with the 42s. I could always run the nitrous jetting rich to add a little more fuel also...
