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Old Jul 16, 2021 | 09:29 AM
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I will be purchasing some headers after I get paid on the 30th and I will attempt tuning everything for them myself since this is probably the simplest starter way to learn. What exactly do I need to look out for and what tables do I need to be changing etc. I haven't really found any YouTube videos on it but please point my in the right direction and I will start watching and listening. I don't have the software in front of me so I couldn't tell you exactly how to turn off the codes but I think I remember you just click on them and put no error or no fault? Something along those lines.

The codes I think will be the easy part obviously but just the change in airflow that is where experiences sort of vary and I'll have to change stuff according to my application.
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Old Jul 16, 2021 | 09:53 AM
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As someone who *actually* melted down a fully forged mill back in my Saturn days- I do not suggest learning to tune yourself

Hire a tuner, imo. A good one. A tune might be expensive, a motor is expensiver
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Old Jul 16, 2021 | 09:56 AM
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I mean I have a tuner I can ask him and he might do it for free. Pretty sure my headers aren't going to melt my engine though

I could tell you the same thing about mechanic work. An engine swap is expensive but your time, effort and money are expensiver.
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Old Jul 16, 2021 | 10:05 AM
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Your headers wont melt down the engine

but you ******* with things you arent familiar with might

If you're gonna "go there" about the money and time thing; just stop there you're in the wrong hobby if you think there is any ROI in this hobby

I spend my time on this because if I didnt... I would regret it
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Old Jul 16, 2021 | 10:14 AM
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Can't remember if you said you have a wideband or not but that's important. I just changed my exhaust and when I ran some data logs I noticed the truck was around 6% lean in a lot of areas especially mid-range. A couple of quick changes to the VE table and it was back to 1-2% error max which is good IMO. I haven't tried to add any more timing but I don't think it wants/needs more so I'm happy with it for now. I had no weird driveability issues after the exhaust change just a tad leaner than I'd want.

This is the perfect minor mod to practice your tuning skills IMO.
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Old Jul 16, 2021 | 10:17 AM
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You went there first about the money lol

Who said anything about ROI XD you get a fat 15% depreciation once you purchase a part, 25% once you install it, and 50% if you ran it!

But that is why I asked rather than just go in there and **** around with it myself. It's a forum where I can post **** before I go all crazy and just edit everything alone. There are people here I can say "Hey bro what do you think about this?" or "Okay not sure if I am doing this correctly what should I do?"

If your advice is continue to pay for tunes and yada yada yada then yes I completely understand where you are coming from but I think that is quite close minded of you. Every single hobby could be taken the same way and especially cars/trucks. Next time you have a question about some mechanical work I'll just drop that bomb on you "Hehe yeah just take it to a mechanic brah you could kill yourself if you forget to grease your ball joints hehe" Pretty dumb opinion, in my opinion
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Old Jul 16, 2021 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by dantheman1540
Can't remember if you said you have a wideband or not but that's important. I just changed my exhaust and when I ran some data logs I noticed the truck was around 6% lean in a lot of areas especially mid-range. A couple of quick changes to the VE table and it was back to 1-2% error max which is good IMO. I haven't tried to add any more timing but I don't think it wants/needs more so I'm happy with it for now. I had no weird driveability issues after the exhaust change just a tad leaner than I'd want.

This is the perfect minor mod to practice your tuning skills IMO.
I do not have a wideband but I was actually thinking about picking one up if y'all deemed it useful enough, I had left it a while back because I was trying to save money lol
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Old Jul 16, 2021 | 10:20 AM
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I do not have a wideband but I was actually thinking about picking one up if y'all deemed it useful enough, I had left it a while back because I was trying to save money lol
I would not try to tune without one
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Old Jul 16, 2021 | 10:21 AM
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10-4 I will pick one up. I'm assuming it is fine to tune the codes out and run the headers for a while or should I just wait for everything to come in?
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Old Jul 16, 2021 | 10:24 AM
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So many people run around with headers, exhaust, intakes, yada yada and don't ever tune for it so I'd assume it would be fine for a little while.
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