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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 11:58 AM
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i am really let down that GM chose to go with such a cheap valve in these heads.

the valve stem broke in my engine last week, some of you already knew that... but i am still irritated about it. luckily though, since i put a cam in the engine, warranty did not cover it. YAY! i guess i knew that going into this, but i hoped that they would cover it still, since it was a defective valve.

i was cruising home about 50 mph when it happened, sounded like a bucket of bolts in there. the stem broke right under the retainer, i have the piece in my pocket actually. the locks and retainer are still attached, just a clean break on the stem. you can see the shiny and dull spots on the stem where the break occured, and it looks like a cast valve... like some kind of shitty metal was used to make this valve with.

oh well, i found a built 377 with 0 miles on it, stage 3 patriot heads, and a fairly large custom grind cam in it... for a very reasonable price. it is going in as i type this... hopefully it will be running by this weekend, and retuned by next week.

the head didnt look too terrible, but the piston did. probably since i drove it around my yard, then on and off a tow trailer and around the dealership with a valve in the cylinder clanking around.

i expect the new motor to be well over 500 rwhp on the juice.

stay tuned.
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 12:05 PM
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Shoulda kept driving it
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 01:48 PM
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Is there any evidence of valves hitting the piston on the other cylinders? Usually when a valve breaks like that it's because the piston hit it. I know the 4.8L has flat top pistons, and the short stroke degrades piston to valve clearance. Were you running LS6 springs?
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 01:53 PM
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If you were worried about the warranty why didnt you pull all the performance parts off?
The time spent pulling off parts probly would of saved you a few thousand dollars.
Even if it costed you a days pay for missing work.
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 01:57 PM
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Is there any evidence of valves hitting the piston on the other cylinders? Usually when a valve breaks like that it's because the piston hit it. I know the 4.8L has flat top pistons, and the short stroke degrades piston to valve clearance. Were you running LS6 springs?
i havent pulled the other head yet, but all the pistons looked perfect on the other cylinders.

all of the plugs looked great too, even the one in number 3 cylinder where the valve broke.

and YES, i was running ls6 springs.
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by slow n low 4.8
If you were worried about the warranty why didnt you pull all the performance parts off?
The time spent pulling off parts probly would of saved you a few thousand dollars.
Even if it costed you a days pay for missing work.
well, mainly because i tossed the factory pushrods and springs, and didnt have that option. and secondly, i thought my buddy at the dealership could "pull one out" for me.

no biggie, i would have rather saved this money though.
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 02:11 PM
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ohh the buddy hookup yep thats a 50/50 shot most of the time
those parts are a dime a dozen
kool,hey if you got it may as well spend it you cant take it with ya
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 02:13 PM
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this is true. i just didnt want to spend it, my sons first birthday party was 2 days after my motor let go. i had to downsize the party a little to buy a new motor..

hell, he probably wont remember his 1st birthday anyway right?
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 02:45 PM
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was ls6 spring the cause of the failure?
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 02:50 PM
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the shitty valve was the cause, as far as i know. the spring never let go, nor did the retainer or lock.

the valve just broke..
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