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May 21, 2007 | 02:28 AM

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dude if you think we are going to run out of oil you are just as crazy as Al Gore.

I really hope your just kidding brian! I'm not saying we are cuz some politician has told me but because I've traveled to Valdez, Dubai, Kuwait, Sudan, Iran, Venezuela, Curacao, the North sea, etc...and worked at oil refineries and on oil tankers for oil companies and this isn't a renewable resource and yes there still might be a few big reserves left but they will be gone and before the turn of the century.

May 21, 2007 | 02:29 AM

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what are the waste from Nuclear plants?

Apart from the spent uranium cores which they send to a waste facility in colorado where they bury it underground...just heat/steam.

May 21, 2007 | 02:30 AM

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...France uses alot of steam turbines for power along with nuke plants, The only energy producing method that is better is hydroelectric and well there arent rivers everywhere

There's not such thing as a steam plant. Nuclear, coal and oil burning power plants are in fact all steam plants. Steam turbines turning generators is how most powerplants generate electricity, the differences in plants are how they produce heat to generate steam.

May 21, 2007 | 02:32 AM

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If we're going to survive as the leader of the free world we're going to have to go nuclear. (Pulls up soap box)......... We have so many coal burning power generators it's killing us. Both from a fixed energy source and the resultant pollution. The gas and oil is small potatoes compared to the energy our country needs to operate industry on an average day. Transportation is only a small pie section of our country's energy needs. No new refineries for the last 30 years equals a very small side supply market. Competition from new sources must arise.
We need to come to some common agreement with the environmentalists to allow new nuke plants to be built. Let them dictate certain conditions to keep public perception that safety and the environment is the bigest concern, but make it clear that the power plants must be built and only the "where" is the option. Don't vote down proposals for nuclear plants if they arise in your locale. There are three types of plant designs. We have to choose one and stick with it as France has done. This can be done and on a pratical basis but it's going to take educating the public and giving the environmentalists no options to new plant construction. Burning fossil fuels will continue for the rest of this century, but where we go from there as a society will be up to the public, politicians, scientists and markets.

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Your absolutly on the ball richard without a doubt. There are a variety of other ways to produce electricity and eventually it will get too expensive for the power companies not to convert to other methods. I remember sailing up the east coast of england and having to pass a "wave farm". England had about 50 square miles (est.) of sea closed off to wave generators producing electricity. I looked them up when I got home and that stuff is pretty awesome. Delt with a similar thing off the western coast, don't remember of which island but they had a wind farm out at sea and were developing ocean current farms (same in concept as the wind farms but underneath the water) in that same area. All that potential is here in the US especially up in AK. The akutan pass in alaska where we traditionally go through has some strong currents and alot of energy could be produced there.
btw thanks for the soap box.

But those issues are for us to push are governments to look into, as far as us individually I still want to know what else these gas cars can run on.

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May 21, 2007 | 02:49 AM

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Hey richard, check out this company startech and what they've done. This is to me one of the most important and usefull ways to produce electricity/power to power our lives with. These guys built a plasma separator which you dump any and all garbage and trash into and it breaks it down to molecular levels and produces two bi-products. One of which we can use to propel cars and another is used in commerciall to make tiles and such. There's a lot of countries that have already bought one and japan bought one to destory hazardous and toxic waste.
Cool stuff!!

Edit: I forgot to add the link

http://www.startech.net/

May 21, 2007 | 08:50 AM

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Edit: I forgot to add the link

http://www.startech.net/

I have some old computers and printers I'd like turned into fuel for my car

I'm comforted by the fact we have some really smart people in this country and we'll get a handle on energy needs and pollution. If there's a $$$ incentive you can bet venture capital will follow.

Richard

May 21, 2007 | 11:18 AM

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The hydrogen thing has already been done. Not sure how they are storing it, but there are places that are currently running it. I saw an article in a magazine, and can't remember which one. anyway, it talked about either Iceland, or Greenland that has abundant natural steam or some sort of heat source coming from the ground so they can easily and cheaply produce electricity which they then use to extract H from water. They have a few stations where you can actually buy it there. Now, I know there are about 100 people up there, but it is a start. I know we have the brain power in the world to figure this thing out, and make it work for the masses. It is going to take some time, but for transportation, I think it is worth considering.

BTW here in Northwest MO they have began putting up wind farms with massive windmill generators and are selling the electricity to cities like St. Louis and others around the area. Kansas has a bunch of them as well.

May 21, 2007 | 11:29 AM

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...it talked about either Iceland, or Greenland that has abundant natural steam or some sort of heat source coming from the ground so they can easily and cheaply produce electricity which they then use to extract H from water.

It was iceland. I think they said 50 percent of the country's hot water is naturally heated by the ground heat and 97 percent of the country's power is by renewable energy. That place is on the cutting edge.