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Old Sep 16, 2021 | 03:55 PM
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Hard to find info including dyno numbers on the Cam Motion Stage 2 cam designed specifically for the 6.2L truck engines. Anyone have any experience with them or thoughts on which version to roll with? I ordered the low lift version but still have a little time before they start the production of it and could switch to the higher lift version if needed. It's for a 2012 Yukon XL Denali. Pulling out a damaged BTR stage 2 cam (story in another thread) and want to go back in with something that will still be reliable, durable, quiet, and suitable for pulling a 7000 lb camper. They offer it in 2 profiles:

"Drop-In" Version:
Grind # XA212/295-XA220/295-17+5
Duration at .050 - 212/220
Lift with 1.7 - .501/.501
Lobe separation 117
Intake center line 112

"High-Lift" Version:
Grind # XA212/325-XA220/325-17+5
Duration at .050 - 212/220
Lift with 1.7 - .553/.553
Lobe separation 117
Intake center line 112

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1/ How much power difference would you estimate there'd be between the 2 versions? Up high? Down low?
2/ Would the "high-lift" version likely require more care and feeding (e.g. new springs) in the next 100K miles? Note: I already have upgraded BTR beehive springs capable of handling the higher lift version
3/ Would the valvetrain likely still be as quiet with the higher lift version as the lower lift?

Thanks for any help and input you may have. I'm grateful.
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Old Sep 16, 2021 | 05:55 PM
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Probably 25-30hp difference. Should be pretty similar down low, but with more mid-range and peak power on the top end. The stock rectangular heads flow so much better at .550 than .500 (and even keeps going above .600!). On a stock cathedral port you wouldn't see as dramatic a difference.

Since CamMotion uses about a 55 intensity from .050 to seat-to-seat timing, either should operate quietly with proper length pushrod. And I doubt you'd be taxing the springs on the higher lift with those durations.
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Old Sep 16, 2021 | 06:39 PM
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100% would pick the high lift and if budget is a concern LS6/3 springs would be what I threw at it
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Originally Posted by 68Formula
Probably 25-30hp difference. Should be pretty similar down low, but with more mid-range and peak power on the top end. The stock rectangular heads flow so much better at .550 than .500 (and even keeps going above .600!). On a stock cathedral port you wouldn't see as dramatic a difference.

Since CamMotion uses about a 55 intensity from .050 to seat-to-seat timing, either should operate quietly with proper length pushrod. And I doubt you'd be taxing the springs on the higher lift with those durations.
Exactly the info I was looking for. Thank you for your expertise. High-lift it will be.
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Old Sep 16, 2021 | 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by arthursc2
100% would pick the high lift and if budget is a concern LS6/3 springs would be what I threw at it
Thank you. Money isn't a huge concern for this build, but I already have upgraded beehive springs good to .560 with only 8k on them, so I'll prolly run those another 30k, and check 'em. Gonna take the heads to a local machine shop for a good cleanup and have them check for cracks, lap the valves, etc.
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Old Sep 16, 2021 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Geotrash
Thank you. Money isn't a huge concern for this build, but I already have upgraded beehive springs good to .560 with only 8k on them, so I'll prolly run those another 30k, and check 'em. Gonna take the heads to a local machine shop for a good cleanup and have them check for cracks, lap the valves, etc.
Might as well get them milled for a little compression bump while your at it. You'll need to verify pushrod length anyway with a new cam.
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Old Sep 16, 2021 | 08:27 PM
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Does anyone know what the advertised seat to seat specs are? How do you know the intensity rating on the cam motion cams?, not calling you out I am just curious since I would like to know. I compared both cam specs, but what I am missing is the truck manifold intake runner length as well as the advertised duration:

It is showing about 5 ft lbs difference between the low and high lift at the peak. I also probably need a lot more reliable test of the factory L9H/L92 head flow as well.
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Old Sep 16, 2021 | 08:30 PM
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Also I am not saying I am right and I would trust the what the more experienced members here said and I don't think the difference is that small, but like I said I am missing data that I need, like the saying always goes about garbage in or whatever it is. I am also missing the cross sectional areas of the intake and exhaust ports on the stock head and the intake manifold.
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If you look up the CamMotion cams on SummitRacing they list both the advertised and .050" durations. From what I saw it was typically 55 (I did say "about" as it may not apply in all cases, but it does seem very consistent).

Here's the headflow https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...omparison.html

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Old Sep 16, 2021 | 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 68Formula
If you look up the CamMotion cams on SummitRacing they list both the advertised and .050" durations. From what I saw it was typically 55 (I did say "about" as it may not apply in all cases, but it does seem very consistent).

Here's the headflow https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...omparison.html
I think 55 is a close estimate. I’ll find out when I talk to them to change my order tomorrow. I’ll ask for a cam card that lists the advertised duration as well, and share it back here. They don’t have one on their website that I can find.
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