6.0 build/swap
#31
JMHO - killer flowing set of heads... would be a bummer to not get the most out of them. I have an 04 LQ4 swapped into my 01. Stock 317s currently, with an EPS 214/220 .598/.604 111+2. It drives/tows nice, signs off early though.
It is a cam geared towards a 4.8/5.3 with a 3500 stall, by the description - although I expected it to not be so mild in my 6.0L Go figure) I have a stock 80E/converter in my truck and it's fine. (stock 80E converter will flash to around 2400-2500 by my logs)
With that said, I will be installing a set of PRC Stage 2.5 59cc 706/862 heads, and already have a larger cam - 224/232, similar lift to my current cam, 114+2 LSA. I currently have a TBSS intake manifold and a NW 92mm TB on the truck - even with my current "baby" cam - it liked the upgrade. I'm switching the intake/TB to a FAST LSXRT and NW 102mm TB when I change the heads and cam. (Got a crackhead deal on them NIB) I'm running 31lb/hr 8.1L non marine injectors, swapping to 52lb/hr Gen 4 EV6 6.2L flex fuel injectors when I swap the top end.
If you are going through the effort, step up the camshaft, upgrade the intake manifold to let it breathe, and get a converter to match. You'll still be able to tow, and it won't drive horrible.
With that said, I will be installing a set of PRC Stage 2.5 59cc 706/862 heads, and already have a larger cam - 224/232, similar lift to my current cam, 114+2 LSA. I currently have a TBSS intake manifold and a NW 92mm TB on the truck - even with my current "baby" cam - it liked the upgrade. I'm switching the intake/TB to a FAST LSXRT and NW 102mm TB when I change the heads and cam. (Got a crackhead deal on them NIB) I'm running 31lb/hr 8.1L non marine injectors, swapping to 52lb/hr Gen 4 EV6 6.2L flex fuel injectors when I swap the top end.
If you are going through the effort, step up the camshaft, upgrade the intake manifold to let it breathe, and get a converter to match. You'll still be able to tow, and it won't drive horrible.
Thanks for the info! Im definitely upgrading the cam, I have made my mind up at this point since I will be in it. If it will put out usable/strong power up until about 6k-6.5k I will be plenty happy. It’s a daily driver and honestly rarely see’s above about 4k but definitely see’s a lot lower daily driver rpm’s. Thats why I’m hesitant to go “all out” and potentially sacrifice my lower-mid range power for a lot of upper end power that I will not use often. Im kinda leaning on the summit cam(its actually in my cart on their site right now)that was recommended previously.
#32
Joined: Mar 2002
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From: FL
Thanks for the info! Im definitely upgrading the cam, I have made my mind up at this point since I will be in it. If it will put out usable/strong power up until about 6k-6.5k I will be plenty happy. It’s a daily driver and honestly rarely see’s above about 4k but definitely see’s a lot lower daily driver rpm’s. Thats why I’m hesitant to go “all out” and potentially sacrifice my lower-mid range power for a lot of upper end power that I will not use often. Im kinda leaning on the summit cam(its actually in my cart on their site right now)that was recommended previously.
My truck is a daily right now until I go through everything on my 2500HD. Even then, I will likely drive my RCSB at least once a week.
#33
Just as a side note, i do have 3.73 gears in my truck. Something like 4.10’s would be better but im not digging into the gears until i have too.
Also, with my heads, and potentially running the cam Summit advised, would a compression ratio of around 11.5:1 be fairly doable on 93 pump? Gas quality around here is pretty good as well.
Also, with my heads, and potentially running the cam Summit advised, would a compression ratio of around 11.5:1 be fairly doable on 93 pump? Gas quality around here is pretty good as well.
#35
If im understanding correctly, with the summit cam, with that LSA and advance ground into it won’t that help keep the power a little lower in the rpm range?
#37
Joined: Mar 2002
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From: FL
I like this one, 6 degrees of overlap - https://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-8707r1
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/c...make/chevrolet - 3 degrees of overlap
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/l...make/chevrolet - 6 degrees of overlap
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/h...make/chevrolet - 5 degrees of overlap
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/b...make/chevrolet - 2.5 degrees of overlap
You get the gist... several grinds available.
#39
38s on Gasoline should be fine, E85 - not so much. As for the cam, as I understand it - negative overlap helps build compression, positive will bleed it off so to speak. That was an old trick with iron head SBC/BBC engines that were on the ragged edge of static compression and octane - run a cam with some overlap to bleed some off. They didn't have the quench or combustion chamber efficiency of the modern engines. In my head I just thought 11.5:1 SCR and a 4000+ lb truck might be iffy on pump 93. I could totally be wrong and off base, just thinking out loud. My combination will yield 10.5:1 SCR and my 224/232 custom grind has 0 overlap. The cam and heads I am using came off of a friend's Gen IV 5.3L, it was 10.75:1 SCR. Slightly heavier truck than mine and smaller cubes, but it was fine on pump 93.
I like this one, 6 degrees of overlap - https://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-8707r1
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/c...make/chevrolet - 3 degrees of overlap
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/l...make/chevrolet - 6 degrees of overlap
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/h...make/chevrolet - 5 degrees of overlap
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/b...make/chevrolet - 2.5 degrees of overlap
You get the gist... several grinds available.
I like this one, 6 degrees of overlap - https://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-8707r1
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/c...make/chevrolet - 3 degrees of overlap
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/l...make/chevrolet - 6 degrees of overlap
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/h...make/chevrolet - 5 degrees of overlap
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/b...make/chevrolet - 2.5 degrees of overlap
You get the gist... several grinds available.
Thanks for the info! Im really liking the summit 8720r1. Just a touch bigger than what I currently have but a decent amount of extra lift.
It would be awesome if I could stay with my 38lb injectors and save that money but I really dont want to find out on the dyno that I’m getting enough fuel.







