Supercharger advice
01-08-2018, 10:33 AM
#41
nothing against Torqstorm, i promise... i'm just playing devil's advocate here, but when i was buying my blower, i played the "working out a couple details" game for the better part of a year with another company before just buying a similar kit that was ready.
sometimes it's just a shock to hear something discouraging when you weren't expecting it.
sometimes it's just a shock to hear something discouraging when you weren't expecting it.
Torqstorm
01-08-2018, 07:55 PM
#42
if the company can't explain that (which it sounds like you can) or has vague answers at best, then it might be time to look elsewhere. i was pretty dead-set on having a Kenne Bell kit, but a wishy-washy attitude, nondescript plan, and delay after delay made me just buy a TVS, and i've been super-happy with it ever since.
01-10-2018, 11:08 PM
#43
TECH Junkie
Just saw this and I'm so sorry to go against the grain but Ive never had a 4l60 fail lol or 4l80 or 6l80 or Allison 6 spd. My 07 4wd turbo truck (mid 7's and beat the **** out of it daily) was a built 4l60 and had Raysbestos clutches and some other good stuff from a local really good tranny guy and PI conv. Other trucks have only been stockers running low to high 9's or very low 10's in the 1/8th. Ive been very lucky I'm sure...beats me!
01-11-2018, 10:29 AM
#44
Just saw this and I'm so sorry to go against the grain but Ive never had a 4l60 fail lol or 4l80 or 6l80 or Allison 6 spd. My 07 4wd turbo truck (mid 7's and beat the **** out of it daily) was a built 4l60 and had Raysbestos clutches and some other good stuff from a local really good tranny guy and PI conv. Other trucks have only been stockers running low to high 9's or very low 10's in the 1/8th. Ive been very lucky I'm sure...beats me!
01-11-2018, 03:44 PM
#45
Teching In
Thread Starter
Just saw this and I'm so sorry to go against the grain but Ive never had a 4l60 fail lol or 4l80 or 6l80 or Allison 6 spd. My 07 4wd turbo truck (mid 7's and beat the **** out of it daily) was a built 4l60 and had Raysbestos clutches and some other good stuff from a local really good tranny guy and PI conv. Other trucks have only been stockers running low to high 9's or very low 10's in the 1/8th. Ive been very lucky I'm sure...beats me!
01-11-2018, 04:31 PM
#46
TECH Enthusiast
If you mean people giving you advice = arguing, then what you really don't want are opinions that differ from yours. That's sad. Best of luck to you
Richard
Richard
01-11-2018, 04:40 PM
#47
Like we all said, its your money, spend it how you want.
When the 60 *****, you probably wouldnt post here anyway explaining that it happened. I am only making this post so when ppl find this thread on a google search they dont come to the conclusion that their 60e can survive 500ft/lbs in a truck.
Maybe you single cab, short bed, 2wd bolt on 4.8 guys are ok. But it takes a VERY short search to find 1000s of SUV and 4WD "bigger" trucks who are having their 60e replaced because it couldnt make it.
For the ease and limited cost (maybe less than your on the shelf spare), NOT doing an 80e because "you dont want to" is silly. Your money, your project. My supercharged 408, built 80e and SUV will be happy to throw your truck on my trailer and do a 4wd burnout on the way back your shop.
When the 60 *****, you probably wouldnt post here anyway explaining that it happened. I am only making this post so when ppl find this thread on a google search they dont come to the conclusion that their 60e can survive 500ft/lbs in a truck.
Maybe you single cab, short bed, 2wd bolt on 4.8 guys are ok. But it takes a VERY short search to find 1000s of SUV and 4WD "bigger" trucks who are having their 60e replaced because it couldnt make it.
For the ease and limited cost (maybe less than your on the shelf spare), NOT doing an 80e because "you dont want to" is silly. Your money, your project. My supercharged 408, built 80e and SUV will be happy to throw your truck on my trailer and do a 4wd burnout on the way back your shop.
01-11-2018, 06:55 PM
#48
Teching In
Thread Starter
Richard, that's the people on messengers words, not mine. I love advice and discussions, it's why I came hear from the get go. I never said I didn't want others opinions, that's been said for me twice now.
01-11-2018, 07:05 PM
#49
Teching In
Thread Starter
Like we all said, its your money, spend it how you want.
When the 60 *****, you probably wouldnt post here anyway explaining that it happened. I am only making this post so when ppl find this thread on a google search they dont come to the conclusion that their 60e can survive 500ft/lbs in a truck.
Maybe you single cab, short bed, 2wd bolt on 4.8 guys are ok. But it takes a VERY short search to find 1000s of SUV and 4WD "bigger" trucks who are having their 60e replaced because it couldnt make it.
For the ease and limited cost (maybe less than your on the shelf spare), NOT doing an 80e because "you dont want to" is silly. Your money, your project. My supercharged 408, built 80e and SUV will be happy to throw your truck on my trailer and do a 4wd burnout on the way back your shop.
When the 60 *****, you probably wouldnt post here anyway explaining that it happened. I am only making this post so when ppl find this thread on a google search they dont come to the conclusion that their 60e can survive 500ft/lbs in a truck.
Maybe you single cab, short bed, 2wd bolt on 4.8 guys are ok. But it takes a VERY short search to find 1000s of SUV and 4WD "bigger" trucks who are having their 60e replaced because it couldnt make it.
For the ease and limited cost (maybe less than your on the shelf spare), NOT doing an 80e because "you dont want to" is silly. Your money, your project. My supercharged 408, built 80e and SUV will be happy to throw your truck on my trailer and do a 4wd burnout on the way back your shop.
01-11-2018, 09:23 PM
#50
I don’t mean to talk down to you, but the justification for not doing an 80 is weak, at best.
Roadrunner Transmission’s here in Abq, NM built us a 4L60e for about 3800$ “warranted” to 700hp. Circle D 3300, single 78mm, 5.3, ECSB 2wd.
We made mid 600s with it. Maybe 633, I’ll have to ask to get you final numbers. Ran it at the track a few times, broke it on a street launch. Maybe 5000mi on it. No torque management, smooth dyno, good timing and fuel control.
we yank it and take it to then, they tell us “oh we didn’t know it was in a truck, we can’t warranty that”
now if 60s are so great, why would a shop who builds transmissions for a living, and offers performance builds not warranty our trans in a truck, as they would if it were in a car?
After that I vowed to only change the fluid in my 60 until it ****. To be fair, my 60 has survived being over heated, over loaded, 477whp for a bit over 10k miles and lots of WOT 4-2 down shifts. Right now she sits at 302whp on an NA 5.3, with maybe 2000mi/yr use.
Doesnt mean I consider it strong. At all, actually. I have a Jakes Lvl3 80 for a reason.
results may vary. But I can swap a stock rebuild 80 into a truck for far less than the 3800 we pissed away on a “warranted 700hp” 60. Least the 80 would hold it
Roadrunner Transmission’s here in Abq, NM built us a 4L60e for about 3800$ “warranted” to 700hp. Circle D 3300, single 78mm, 5.3, ECSB 2wd.
We made mid 600s with it. Maybe 633, I’ll have to ask to get you final numbers. Ran it at the track a few times, broke it on a street launch. Maybe 5000mi on it. No torque management, smooth dyno, good timing and fuel control.
we yank it and take it to then, they tell us “oh we didn’t know it was in a truck, we can’t warranty that”
now if 60s are so great, why would a shop who builds transmissions for a living, and offers performance builds not warranty our trans in a truck, as they would if it were in a car?
After that I vowed to only change the fluid in my 60 until it ****. To be fair, my 60 has survived being over heated, over loaded, 477whp for a bit over 10k miles and lots of WOT 4-2 down shifts. Right now she sits at 302whp on an NA 5.3, with maybe 2000mi/yr use.
Doesnt mean I consider it strong. At all, actually. I have a Jakes Lvl3 80 for a reason.
results may vary. But I can swap a stock rebuild 80 into a truck for far less than the 3800 we pissed away on a “warranted 700hp” 60. Least the 80 would hold it