Another Hemi on the DynoJet.
Dec 29, 2003 | 09:09 PM
#41
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From: claymont delaware
oxidizer......there is no programmers....cams or tork converters out for the hemi motors yet... the only extra parts on my truck are a muffler and a cold intake thats it... when im at the track people will be able to look at my truck and see it run
Dec 29, 2003 | 09:22 PM
#43
Launching!
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From: claymont delaware
low 2000.....the guy that took suthernhemis place was a guy that never raced before and did not launch his truck the way it should be the hemi trucks need to be launched hard at least 2000-2500rpm.... that kid didnt know what he was doing i have seen 100% bone stock hemi longbed 4x4s wich is alot more weight run 15.1 in the 1/4 mile you can see his time slips at DTW i was at the track that day and seen him run
Dec 29, 2003 | 09:24 PM
#44
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Well the 4 speed 46RE has a shift kit available and I'd assume torque converters as that tranny has been out for quite some time in the 1990s. That 5 speed RFE is so new there isn't anything available.
I am not taking anyone's side on this, just trying to sift out the ****.
I am not taking anyone's side on this, just trying to sift out the ****.
Dec 29, 2003 | 09:40 PM
#45
Launching!
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From: claymont delaware
hitmanx....your right i do have the 5spd rfe trans....and soon there will be parts out for them.......oxidizr..comes in here and slammes me for no reason and talks about something he knows nothing about....i have never slammed any body here he must have a problem
Dec 30, 2003 | 12:48 AM
#46
lol ... uh ok ... converters are persay hydraulic equivilant of gears .. show me one converter that claims an efficency of greater than 100% and I'll shut up .. sorry but converters will not produce HP ... STR and neting torque multiplication sure, but last time i checked i have yet to see it ... i have well over 200 hours on a dynojet dyno and under load such as Mustang MD750 you see even more loss ... you wont see HP.... sorry please try again ...
Dec 30, 2003 | 02:04 AM
#47
and btw .. the "head in your *** comment" .. i guess that was a little out of place. Accept my appologies. But understand this argument has been beat to death and some more ... so dont take it too personally ... i really didnt mean it but i can be an *** sometimes ... it happens.
Dec 30, 2003 | 07:19 AM
#48
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From: claymont delaware
oxidizr......read it all..... The APS Torque Converter is very streetable as it relies on a different impeller to not just spacing the members further apart to get additional stall like so many rely on. We also use a Hardened Input Shaft Spline Insert, upgraded friction from paper (OEM) to Kevlar or Solid Carbon-Fiber depending on stall, as well as machine the slight taper off the apply surface for a firmer lock up...resulting in increased top end efficiency. We also increase torque multiplication over the stock unit, meaning we multiply the amount of Torque the unit will put to the back tires delivering EXCITING performance. This is done by using a higher stall stator and a negative raked impeller...these are not just a simple, modified, factory converter with loose tolerances to give you a higher stall effect.
These factors all add up to give you the APS EDGE! Getting the EDGE in performance while maintaining efficiency for fuel economy and peppy around town driving. We increase the efficiency of the torque converter over the stock unit by a full 6% (stock rating is approximately 14% parasitic loss just from the converter). This means that you don't get that "spongy" feeling under light acceleration found in other high-stall converters. Our converters can easily handle horsepower ratings of 600+!
For those looking for the Ultimate in Torque Converters, check out our Pro-Series "BracketFighter" converters. They use a Spun Billet Housing for extra strength, 245mm impeller, can be custom configured for vehicles with trans-brakes, and are also fitted with anti-ballooning measures. Call us for pricing on these converters.
Yes, you read it right. APS now has the ONLY aftermarket performance torque converter for the 5.7L "Hemi" trucks. It offers much closer tolerances than factory (very sloppy) and a 200rpm higher stall as well. With the closer tolerances, you get more power to the rear wheels which, in conjunction with the slightly higher stall, equates to quicker acceleration and faster ET's at the track. Again, we are the ONLY ones who offer this converter. The stators we use are all brand-new custom manufactured, not modified factory pieces. This brings the efficiency factory from the factory 82% to 93%. This can allow us to guarantee you a minimum 25-30 rear-wheel HP increase.
Our Torque Converters do NOT cause problems with shifting, check engine lights, or having to lift off the accelerator to shift (1-2 shift or 2-3 shift). This is a sign of an inferior, poorly built Torque Converter. We only build the highest quality converters.
You can also download "How Torque Converters Work" (Adobe Acrobat v5.x format)
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What is Torque Converter Stall?
The easy answer is: The RPM a torque converter will allow the engine to attain with a given engine torque input.
How is Torque Converter Stall measured?
That's where the confusion begins between the racer and the high stall torque converter builder. Stall is measured in three different ways - TRUE, BRAKE and FLASH Stall. The only true way to set stall is using TRUE stall math.
What is TRUE Stall?
True stall is measured with the transmission locked (Trans brake) and the drive shaft still. The throttle is then fully depressed and held to obtain the holding RPM of the torque converter. This is the "TRUE" Stall.
What is Foot Brake stall?
This is attained with the transmission in gear and the brakes depressed fully. Now, slowly apply the accelerator. The RPM the engine reaches the moment before the tires spin is known as the "BRAKE" stall. BRAKE stall in not a consistent way to measure your stall converter and has many variables. This method will be lower then TRUE stall by 400-800 RPM.
What is FLASH Stall?
Flash stall is generally read while the car is in motion. While rolling at a slow speed the throttle is depressed fully to see where the RPM will flash (or peak). This method will not be true if tires spin or car is rolling too fast. Due to the turbine already turning in the converter we end up with less torque multiplication. This will give you a lower stall reading of between 200 and 600 RPM under the converters TRUE stall in the same application.
Why do I need a custom built high stall torque converter ?
A torque converter that has a part number has many applications. Many manufactures sell you the same advertised 3200 rpm stall converter for your small block as they would for the next customers big block. This will always result in two very different stall settings. Do you need a custom built high stall torque converter? Perhaps you don't, but building the units on a one to one basis allows us to put out a product that is configured correct the FIRST time. This is done using a "Performance Torque Converter Application Sheet". It's with this information that we can custom configure your performance torque converter to get the most for your investment.
Our least experienced transmission builder has 20+ years of Hands-On experience in High Performance Automatic Transmissions.
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TQ Converter models currently available (email for older applications):
These factors all add up to give you the APS EDGE! Getting the EDGE in performance while maintaining efficiency for fuel economy and peppy around town driving. We increase the efficiency of the torque converter over the stock unit by a full 6% (stock rating is approximately 14% parasitic loss just from the converter). This means that you don't get that "spongy" feeling under light acceleration found in other high-stall converters. Our converters can easily handle horsepower ratings of 600+!
For those looking for the Ultimate in Torque Converters, check out our Pro-Series "BracketFighter" converters. They use a Spun Billet Housing for extra strength, 245mm impeller, can be custom configured for vehicles with trans-brakes, and are also fitted with anti-ballooning measures. Call us for pricing on these converters.
Yes, you read it right. APS now has the ONLY aftermarket performance torque converter for the 5.7L "Hemi" trucks. It offers much closer tolerances than factory (very sloppy) and a 200rpm higher stall as well. With the closer tolerances, you get more power to the rear wheels which, in conjunction with the slightly higher stall, equates to quicker acceleration and faster ET's at the track. Again, we are the ONLY ones who offer this converter. The stators we use are all brand-new custom manufactured, not modified factory pieces. This brings the efficiency factory from the factory 82% to 93%. This can allow us to guarantee you a minimum 25-30 rear-wheel HP increase.
Our Torque Converters do NOT cause problems with shifting, check engine lights, or having to lift off the accelerator to shift (1-2 shift or 2-3 shift). This is a sign of an inferior, poorly built Torque Converter. We only build the highest quality converters.
You can also download "How Torque Converters Work" (Adobe Acrobat v5.x format)
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What is Torque Converter Stall?
The easy answer is: The RPM a torque converter will allow the engine to attain with a given engine torque input.
How is Torque Converter Stall measured?
That's where the confusion begins between the racer and the high stall torque converter builder. Stall is measured in three different ways - TRUE, BRAKE and FLASH Stall. The only true way to set stall is using TRUE stall math.
What is TRUE Stall?
True stall is measured with the transmission locked (Trans brake) and the drive shaft still. The throttle is then fully depressed and held to obtain the holding RPM of the torque converter. This is the "TRUE" Stall.
What is Foot Brake stall?
This is attained with the transmission in gear and the brakes depressed fully. Now, slowly apply the accelerator. The RPM the engine reaches the moment before the tires spin is known as the "BRAKE" stall. BRAKE stall in not a consistent way to measure your stall converter and has many variables. This method will be lower then TRUE stall by 400-800 RPM.
What is FLASH Stall?
Flash stall is generally read while the car is in motion. While rolling at a slow speed the throttle is depressed fully to see where the RPM will flash (or peak). This method will not be true if tires spin or car is rolling too fast. Due to the turbine already turning in the converter we end up with less torque multiplication. This will give you a lower stall reading of between 200 and 600 RPM under the converters TRUE stall in the same application.
Why do I need a custom built high stall torque converter ?
A torque converter that has a part number has many applications. Many manufactures sell you the same advertised 3200 rpm stall converter for your small block as they would for the next customers big block. This will always result in two very different stall settings. Do you need a custom built high stall torque converter? Perhaps you don't, but building the units on a one to one basis allows us to put out a product that is configured correct the FIRST time. This is done using a "Performance Torque Converter Application Sheet". It's with this information that we can custom configure your performance torque converter to get the most for your investment.
Our least experienced transmission builder has 20+ years of Hands-On experience in High Performance Automatic Transmissions.
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TQ Converter models currently available (email for older applications):
Dec 30, 2003 | 07:43 AM
#50
Launching!
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From: claymont delaware
oxidizr.....here is more info on APS converters....... APS Precision Mfg., LLC utilizes a 30,000 Sq Foot CNC machine shop with over 200 employees dedicated to making specialty parts that may not be available elsewhere. We are constantly pushing forward into new areas and invite our customers to submit ideas on parts or tools that they would like to have built. We can meet that challenge provided we determine that there is a market to recover capital expenditures.
Our transmission specialists have, at a minimum, 20+ years of experience as well as formal education, in some cases, Masters Degrees in Engineering. In all circumstances we design parts for looks but that is secondary to function, after all we are engineers. We have the ability to create on very large scale but have chosen to tackle some of the more specialized areas as we see that Custom Products are slipping away in the marketplace. email ( info@apsprecision.com
Our transmission specialists have, at a minimum, 20+ years of experience as well as formal education, in some cases, Masters Degrees in Engineering. In all circumstances we design parts for looks but that is secondary to function, after all we are engineers. We have the ability to create on very large scale but have chosen to tackle some of the more specialized areas as we see that Custom Products are slipping away in the marketplace. email ( info@apsprecision.com