FYI, stock HD brake/flash stall
#1
Many moons ago I posted that my 03 1500HD's stock torque converter flashed stalled and brake stalled @ 2500rpms.
Just reporting back in that my 05 2500HD's stock torque converter does the same. Might be a less expensive alternative for some
this is on a 4L80e
Just reporting back in that my 05 2500HD's stock torque converter does the same. Might be a less expensive alternative for some

this is on a 4L80e
#2
Remember that stall is going to change and is not a set # for different applications. 
In a 1/2ton, RCSB it is going to stall different than in the same truck but backed by a 6.0L. Then stick the same converter in an Ext.Cab, 4x4 5.3L and it will stall different again.
Stalls are based on the TQ/HP and weight of the vehicle it's going into. Change any of that and the stall RPM will change. Or at least should based on what I know of converters. Which may not be as much as I think. LOL

In a 1/2ton, RCSB it is going to stall different than in the same truck but backed by a 6.0L. Then stick the same converter in an Ext.Cab, 4x4 5.3L and it will stall different again.
Stalls are based on the TQ/HP and weight of the vehicle it's going into. Change any of that and the stall RPM will change. Or at least should based on what I know of converters. Which may not be as much as I think. LOL
#3
Originally Posted by F8L Z71
Remember that stall is going to change and is not a set # for different applications. 
In a 1/2ton, RCSB it is going to stall different than in the same truck but backed by a 6.0L. Then stick the same converter in an Ext.Cab, 4x4 5.3L and it will stall different again.
Stalls are based on the TQ/HP and weight of the vehicle it's going into. Change any of that and the stall RPM will change. Or at least should based on what I know of converters. Which may not be as much as I think. LOL

In a 1/2ton, RCSB it is going to stall different than in the same truck but backed by a 6.0L. Then stick the same converter in an Ext.Cab, 4x4 5.3L and it will stall different again.
Stalls are based on the TQ/HP and weight of the vehicle it's going into. Change any of that and the stall RPM will change. Or at least should based on what I know of converters. Which may not be as much as I think. LOL
Thanks F8L, a while back Hitman X boned me up on all these variables.
I was just throwing out an FYI for that ***
#4
No worries man. It's good to see what it is stalling at with your particular combo and is still valuable. Maybe you can go into your first post and add the details of your truck so we have a better picture 
I also looked up the info just to be sure I wasn't getting senile and I was correct but there were other variables. This gives us a better idea of what is going on. Kinda like how my TT3000 started out somewhere around 3000rpm but after the turbo it was closer to 3500 or more (never really checked other than it was definately over 3k).

I also looked up the info just to be sure I wasn't getting senile and I was correct but there were other variables. This gives us a better idea of what is going on. Kinda like how my TT3000 started out somewhere around 3000rpm but after the turbo it was closer to 3500 or more (never really checked other than it was definately over 3k).
Nothing about torque converters is more misunderstood than stall speed. Stall speed is directly related
to the amount of torque your engine produces--the more torque, the higher the stall speed. For example,
a converter with a 2,800 to 3,200 rpm rating might provide approximately 2,800 rpm of stall speed behind
a mild small block V8, but about 5,000 rpm behind a big block making 800-plus ft.-lbs. of torque. If you
don't know your engine's torque rating, you cannot establish the converter's stall speed.
That leads to perhaps the biggest problem people have when buying a converter: stall speed ratings.
While most converter manufacturers list stall speed ranges, those numbers are very, very general
guidelines; true stall speed is impossible to measure due to vehicle variables. The time-honored method
of testing a converter's stall speed--holding the brake and revving the engine while in gear--doesn't
work, primarily because the tires will spin before you reach the converter's stall rpm.
The biggest complaint about converters centers on a stall speed that is too low. The problem is usually a
lack of low-end torque, but there are other variables that can contribute to lower stall speeds, including
the following:
Low vehicle weight
Small displacement engine
Very low compression ratio
Long duration camshafts
Retarded cam timing
to the amount of torque your engine produces--the more torque, the higher the stall speed. For example,
a converter with a 2,800 to 3,200 rpm rating might provide approximately 2,800 rpm of stall speed behind
a mild small block V8, but about 5,000 rpm behind a big block making 800-plus ft.-lbs. of torque. If you
don't know your engine's torque rating, you cannot establish the converter's stall speed.
That leads to perhaps the biggest problem people have when buying a converter: stall speed ratings.
While most converter manufacturers list stall speed ranges, those numbers are very, very general
guidelines; true stall speed is impossible to measure due to vehicle variables. The time-honored method
of testing a converter's stall speed--holding the brake and revving the engine while in gear--doesn't
work, primarily because the tires will spin before you reach the converter's stall rpm.
The biggest complaint about converters centers on a stall speed that is too low. The problem is usually a
lack of low-end torque, but there are other variables that can contribute to lower stall speeds, including
the following:
Low vehicle weight
Small displacement engine
Very low compression ratio
Long duration camshafts
Retarded cam timing
#6
Originally Posted by Yelo
I'd like to know the differences between our trucks grippy......mine only stalls to ~2000rpm, and AFAIK we have the same motors and trannys
Your putting 280hp to the wheels, I'm putting out that or a little less.
Our converters must be different, because if you had the same converter you should be stalling equal or higher than I.
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#8
Originally Posted by DanaliHD
what do you mean by "stalls"? All i know is, if i hold the brake down and press on the throttle, the truck boggs out. Shouldn't the tires start spinning instead?
#9
When I press my brake pedal down, I can put my gas pedal all the way to the floor, and hold it there at 2500rpms till the light turns green, this is "brake stall".
Now, when your at a stop and you take your same foot from the brake pedal and slam the gas pedal all they way to the floor, the rpm the engine first jumps to is "flash stall".
In both cases this is 2500 rpms for me.
This is not always what the actual stall speed of what your torque converter is rated for because, as stated above, variable factors influence brake and flash stall speeds
Now, when your at a stop and you take your same foot from the brake pedal and slam the gas pedal all they way to the floor, the rpm the engine first jumps to is "flash stall".
In both cases this is 2500 rpms for me.
This is not always what the actual stall speed of what your torque converter is rated for because, as stated above, variable factors influence brake and flash stall speeds
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