GM Drivetrain & Suspension Chassis | Transmission| Driveshaft | Gears/Rear End/Differential | Traction Aids

Sent my 4L60E to TransBuilderGuy

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 9, 2019 | 01:18 PM
  #261  
arthursc2's Avatar
TECH Veteran
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 4,341
Likes: 1,517
Default

If the stall speed is truly 6k, I wonder if that is helping the trans live because so much is being lost in the converter. Just a thought, no expert here. Still not willing to do a 60e Level XXXX over an 80e. But, it does surprise me somewhat that I havent broken my 60 yet, and I weigh a good bit more than most of you guys. Make less power, and maybe not as hard on it, so there are reasons its lived I am sure.

Or I have a really good tuner who knows his **** on the trans settings

Either way, 80 > 60, forever.
Reply
Old Jan 9, 2019 | 05:41 PM
  #262  
TXsilverado's Avatar
Moderator
20 Year Member
Loved
Liked
Community Favorite
iTrader: (19)
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 18,364
Likes: 291
From: Humble Texas
Default

Originally Posted by arthursc2
If the stall speed is truly 6k, I wonder if that is helping the trans live because so much is being lost in the converter. Just a thought, no expert here. Still not willing to do a 60e Level XXXX over an 80e. But, it does surprise me somewhat that I havent broken my 60 yet, and I weigh a good bit more than most of you guys. Make less power, and maybe not as hard on it, so there are reasons its lived I am sure.

Or I have a really good tuner who knows his **** on the trans settings

Either way, 80 > 60, forever.
The 60e also has a trans brake installed so my 6k stall was verified against trans brake. I sold it without the converter, and the new owner stuck his tripple disk circle D into it. the 6k converter was running 1.4x 60' times and trapping 101+mph in the 1/8 with a stock bottom N/A LS2. I agree 80e>60e but i'm extremely impressed by this one. I had it built by the best trans man in the game
Reply
Old Jan 9, 2019 | 08:57 PM
  #263  
Feed's Avatar
TECH Apprentice
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 343
Likes: 29
From: Lockport, NY
Default

Originally Posted by TXsilverado
I had it built by the best trans man in the game
Reply
Old Jan 10, 2019 | 11:21 AM
  #264  
TXsilverado's Avatar
Moderator
20 Year Member
Loved
Liked
Community Favorite
iTrader: (19)
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 18,364
Likes: 291
From: Humble Texas
Default

Lmao.
Reply
Old Jan 20, 2019 | 04:04 AM
  #265  
Transbuilderguy's Avatar
Staging Lane
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2015
Posts: 52
Likes: 0
Default My response to this

Ok so I am kinda perplexed as I was reading thru the post on pt. So I am supposedly the *******?
Let's see trans had a broken pump to begin with not sure of cause could have been converter install could have just been a freak rotor breakage I stood behind it and put a billet pump rotor in it. You get it back and the unit is serviced from what I recall and have numerous broken hard parts I find the incorrect filter installed either way broken hard parts are broken hard parts at that point any other builder would say hey that's on you no I again stand by the unit and fix it for you. Fast forward when this setup was built you explained it was going to be a NA setup with about 450 to 500hp no power adders. I gave you options on different converters since it was going to be a na app we settled on the SB series converter when you advised me that you were going to put a turbo on the truck I advised you that the converter was not made or even spec out for that setup and a billet converter with balloon plate was needed you did not take my advise and ran it and the converter came part and damaged the pump again and filled the unit full of converter material. Again I clean the unit and fix it for you again I guess that's me being an ******* huh again anyone at that point would have walked away from it but I didnt. Never once during any problems with this unit was there any damage from anything that i did as a builder not once did it ever come back with burnt up clutches but rather broken parts from faulty service and a broken converter from using a power adder on a converter that was built for NA 450 hp matter fact the truck went 11s on my "junk" trans. My only fault in this is I should have walked away from it when the filter issue came in and definatley should have walked away from it when the converter issue came up as well

Reply
Old Jan 20, 2019 | 04:06 AM
  #266  
Transbuilderguy's Avatar
Staging Lane
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2015
Posts: 52
Likes: 0
Default

https://m.facebook.com/groups/1467725086801418?view=permalink&id=178915761132482 9
here is a video of the teardown when the wrong filter was installed
Reply
Old Jan 20, 2019 | 04:29 AM
  #267  
Transbuilderguy's Avatar
Staging Lane
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2015
Posts: 52
Likes: 0
Default

This really blows but Thanks for the response Robert Godfrey.

1. You Scheduled Next day pick up here in buffalo.

2. It arrived in Florida yesterday. You texted me that you picked it up. Today you opened it and called me.

3. You Explaining the filter difference. I questioned how a filter deeper in the pan would lose fluid from a filter higher in the pan. The video shows that the shallow filter would actually sit up toward the valve body closer ( away from the fluid ) more than the deep filter.

I had a local transmission specialty shop change the pumps for me because I didn't have the tools to do it. W a burned up pump, They obviously changed filters. I'm very upset/shocked/surprised they would use the shallow filter when the whole shop was impressed w the unit. They even asked about my external Trans cooler and I "went the extra mile w the expensive deep aluminum pan".
another reason I should have walked away another shop opened it up but they were impressed with build hrmm very odd
Reply
Old Jan 20, 2019 | 04:31 AM
  #268  
Transbuilderguy's Avatar
Staging Lane
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2015
Posts: 52
Likes: 0
Default

This really blows but Thanks for the response Robert Godfrey.

1. You Scheduled Next day pick up here in buffalo.

2. It arrived in Florida yesterday. You texted me that you picked it up. Today you opened it and called me.

3. You Explaining the filter difference. I questioned how a filter deeper in the pan would lose fluid from a filter higher in the pan. The video shows that the shallow filter would actually sit up toward the valve body closer ( away from the fluid ) more than the deep filter.

I had a local transmission specialty shop change the pumps for me because I didn't have the tools to do it. W a burned up pump, They obviously changed filters. I'm very upset/shocked/surprised they would use the shallow filter when the whole shop was impressed w the unit. They even asked about my external Trans cooler and I "went the extra mile w the expensive deep aluminum pan".
Forgot about the shop replacing the broken pump due to converter install issue another reason I should have walked away
Reply
Old Jan 21, 2019 | 01:12 PM
  #269  
Mconcha's Avatar
Launching!
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2016
Posts: 243
Likes: 11
Default

I'm out.

Last edited by Mconcha; Jan 22, 2019 at 02:06 PM.
Reply
Old Jan 21, 2019 | 01:20 PM
  #270  
Transbuilderguy's Avatar
Staging Lane
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2015
Posts: 52
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by Mconcha
Sounds like you go way out of your way to help a customer and have done so multiple times. You don’t seem like an ******* in my opinion. Your response could have been a little more professional if I’m getting nit picky, although I see why you would be frustrated.

Honestly anyone who spends 10 minutes on this site already has been warned of the 4l60’s weakness and advised to do an 80/85e swap.
agreed Choda isnt a bad guy and didnt mean to portray that but damn none of the problems with this trans were caused by me at all possibly did I miss some damage that the blasted converter caused on the last go round that may have been causing the shudder issue with the new converter? Possibly he wasnt having lockup issues with the original converter so it's possible that there was some damage somewhere else but should I be crucified for that? I wouldn't think so
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:21 PM.