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540ci w/4L80E converter shudder at lockup

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Old Jul 4, 2014 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by dubwise
Tig, have you had any engine work done lately? Like new intake or heads?

I found this last night.. It's LONNG, but really informative how he systematically steps through everything. Thought this may help you out:

4L60E Transmission TCC Shudder? No, Misfire! - YouTube

Last night I found that I had a bit of coolant weeping out under the driver side head. I'm thinking this could def cause the issue.
Hey dub,
My engine is completely stock. I have not done anything to it yet.

That is pretty cool, very detailed. If I could only be lucky enough to find a mechanic that willing to do so, I'd be all set hah. After a search, I did find kits very similar to his for fuel injector cleaning. I may give it a try myself.

Hopefully that leak is the culprit. Good luck. Post up results after.

Thanks for the link/video.
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Old Jul 7, 2014 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by lsxperfomance
That sucks, well I hope your right on the leak causing it. I don't think it is.. But def worth a shot. Good luck man keep us posted. I still feel there is something goin on in that Trans but so tough to pin point. Ideally a gauge should be plumbed in some how to monitor pressure on lock up circuit. I know easier said than done but may be something to look into.
I found the brake booster check valve grommet had a decent size tear in it, which could have caused a vacuum leak...haha IDK I doubt that will fix it, but I replaced it anyway. I'm on the hunt for engine probs, but I did pick up a trans pressure gauge so I'm going to check the pressures just in case. I'm not ruling anything out at the moment.

I'm going to add some more grounds to the (aluminum heads), replace the mini battery I have - as I suspect it could be draining causing the HEI distro to not fire all the way.

In other news, the converter is on its way back to PTC. Tthey did mention I may need a triple disc for it to lock up all the way. They should be tearing into the converter end of this week or beginning of next. I'll keep the thread updated with findings.
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Old Jul 7, 2014 | 06:12 PM
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Keep in mind the TCC valve in the valve body is one of 4 TCC circuit valves, the other 3 valves that can affect it are in the pump, as well as the AFL valve in the valve body having some effect on the converter circuit and more effect on all the transmissions circuits.

A good single disc shouldn't shudder under anything less than 400-500 HP load. Although not recommended we've locked single discs at over 900 RWHP and had them hold.
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Keep in mind the TCC valve in the valve body is one of 4 TCC circuit valves, the other 3 valves that can affect it are in the pump, as well as the AFL valve in the valve body having some effect on the converter circuit and more effect on all the transmissions circuits.

A good single disc shouldn't shudder under anything less than 400-500 HP load. Although not recommended we've locked single discs at over 900 RWHP and had them hold.
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Old Jul 9, 2014 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Jake's Performance
Keep in mind the TCC valve in the valve body is one of 4 TCC circuit valves, the other 3 valves that can affect it are in the pump, as well as the AFL valve in the valve body having some effect on the converter circuit and more effect on all the transmissions circuits.

A good single disc shouldn't shudder under anything less than 400-500 HP load. Although not recommended we've locked single discs at over 900 RWHP and had them hold.
Good info, Thanks!

I have read a few threads where certain companies will provide an additional spring to put in converter limiter valve (in the pump) to increase the lockup pressure on the TCC.

Is this something you would recommend doing, and if yes is the spring readily available anywhere?

Also, is it common that the 3 valves in the pump wear out like the VB TCC circuit?
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