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Old Nov 2, 2011 | 01:09 PM
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There is more then one way to look at that restrictor plate idea.. It can also cause alot of heat. Both ways is going to make the blower work harder..
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Old Nov 2, 2011 | 01:26 PM
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Supercharged Cobalts have something like this from the factory. The ECM controls the internal bypass valve to provide more boost on the bottom and bleed off some boost at the top. One can assume those blowers are also 'working harder' but they are covered by a warranty for like 100,000 miles. Probably not making it work hard enough to cause damage within any kind of reasonable blower lifetime.
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Old Nov 2, 2011 | 06:02 PM
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Kinda confused on this... Are they using the Tial WG instead of the Procharger BOV?
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Old Nov 2, 2011 | 07:28 PM
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I was always curious if this would be plausible, guess i won the bet with myself/ seems a few on here are gonna be quick to jump on a little project here soon and try this out!
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Old Nov 2, 2011 | 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by black00chev
Kinda confused on this... Are they using the Tial WG instead of the Procharger BOV?
They are using both. The bypass still stays open while driving normal.. It still closes under boost. The waste gate will allow the use of a smaller pulley to make more max boost while the gate will limit it to how much you actually want to run.. A smaller pulley will allow it to boost harder sooner, then open when you reach the set point..
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Old Nov 2, 2011 | 08:13 PM
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Gotcha, makes sense to me! Pretty neat idea.
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Old Nov 2, 2011 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Mangled03gmc
They are using both. The bypass still stays open while driving normal.. It still closes under boost. The waste gate will allow the use of a smaller pulley to make more max boost while the gate will limit it to how much you actually want to run.. A smaller pulley will allow it to boost harder sooner, then open when you reach the set point..
What he said!
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Old Nov 3, 2011 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Mangled03gmc
Damn and to think if I would have got off my *** I might have been able to be in the mag I still have the damn thing sitting some where
I thought about that while I was reading the article. I remember you picking up something like this a while back and figured it just got puched to the back of the shelf in the garage...

Originally Posted by Mangled03gmc
There is more then one way to look at that restrictor plate idea.. It can also cause alot of heat. Both ways is going to make the blower work harder..
The article mentions that running any smaller of a pulley caused the FMIC to overheat which really means the IAT's climbed too high. I was klind of surprised that they had an issue. I could see that a restrictor is choking off the blower so it's working harder to build boost. I would have thought that since the wastegate opening up bleeds off the boost, the load would be reduced on the blower.

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Old Nov 16, 2011 | 10:19 PM
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thats pretty cool. Ive heard of guys using wastegates on blower setups for more bottom end, but hadnt heard how they were doing it.

So you could hook up a boost controller to the gate and set your boost per gear.
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Old Jun 3, 2012 | 07:42 PM
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I just got around to reading this issue of GMHTP.
I know of a couple of local shops that have done this with great success on both a Camaro and a Mustang.
The shop in the article prefers to run the WG between head unit and FMIC...which is where I have my PC race by-pass...guess I would just relocate it post FMIC.
Thinking of going w/ SD tune...guess I could locate it where I have the MAF since I've already relocated the IAT sensor.
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