Tranny line pressure in HPT - need to return to stock
07-27-2005, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Zick
I'm curious, how much difference did the shifts feel after you got the Magnuson tune? I'm trying to find some good setup tables for my truck to replace it with. So far the one's I've used haven't worked to well for me.
07-27-2005, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ZDEN
i have a bin file from my '03 silvy with the shift tables set up from the pred i had before i got hpt. i liked the way it shifted with these settings so i kept them. i even used almost the same settings for my '05
07-27-2005, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Naked AV
The 1-2 shift lurches under low-to-medium throttle....can't say that I like that very much. Other than that it seems pretty good.
07-29-2005, 12:33 AM
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Found some interesting differences between the stock '04 Avalanche tune and the stock '03 Avalanche tune in Performance (Tow/Haul) mode. Wonder why they're different? 
Base Shift Pressure vs. Torque vs. Gear - PERFORMANCE
STOCK '03 AVALANCHE
10 11 13 16 18 22 25 29 33 37 41 45 49 54 60 63 66 68 70 73 76 78 80 83 86 88 90 90 90 90 90 90 90
15 15 15 15 20 23 26 28 32 35 38 42 46 48 50 53 56 58 60 63 66 68 70 73 76 78 80 83 86 88 89 90 90
10 10 10 20 20 20 20 25 30 35 40 45 50 55 60 65 70 75 80 85 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90
STOCK '04 AVALANCHE
6 6 8 10 13 16 20 23 26 30 33 37 40 44 48 51 54 56 59 62 64 67 69 71 73 75 76 77 78 80 83 88 90
8 8 9 10 15 18 20 23 26 29 32 35 38 40 43 46 48 50 53 56 58 60 62 64 65 67 69 71 79 82 89 90 90
10 10 10 20 20 20 20 25 30 35 40 45 50 55 60 65 70 75 80 85 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90
MY TRUCK
10 11 13 16 18 22 25 29 33 37 41 45 49 54 60 63 66 68 70 73 76 85 96 96 96 96 96 96 96 96 96 96 96
15 15 15 15 20 23 26 28 32 35 38 42 46 48 50 53 56 58 60 65 75 85 96 96 96 96 96 96 96 96 96 96 96
10 10 10 20 20 20 20 25 30 35 40 45 50 55 60 65 70 75 80 85 90 90 96 96 96 96 96 96 96 96 96 96 96
Base Shift Pressure vs. Torque vs. Gear - PERFORMANCE
STOCK '03 AVALANCHE
10 11 13 16 18 22 25 29 33 37 41 45 49 54 60 63 66 68 70 73 76 78 80 83 86 88 90 90 90 90 90 90 90
15 15 15 15 20 23 26 28 32 35 38 42 46 48 50 53 56 58 60 63 66 68 70 73 76 78 80 83 86 88 89 90 90
10 10 10 20 20 20 20 25 30 35 40 45 50 55 60 65 70 75 80 85 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90
STOCK '04 AVALANCHE
6 6 8 10 13 16 20 23 26 30 33 37 40 44 48 51 54 56 59 62 64 67 69 71 73 75 76 77 78 80 83 88 90
8 8 9 10 15 18 20 23 26 29 32 35 38 40 43 46 48 50 53 56 58 60 62 64 65 67 69 71 79 82 89 90 90
10 10 10 20 20 20 20 25 30 35 40 45 50 55 60 65 70 75 80 85 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90
MY TRUCK
10 11 13 16 18 22 25 29 33 37 41 45 49 54 60 63 66 68 70 73 76 85 96 96 96 96 96 96 96 96 96 96 96
15 15 15 15 20 23 26 28 32 35 38 42 46 48 50 53 56 58 60 65 75 85 96 96 96 96 96 96 96 96 96 96 96
10 10 10 20 20 20 20 25 30 35 40 45 50 55 60 65 70 75 80 85 90 90 96 96 96 96 96 96 96 96 96 96 96
07-29-2005, 02:05 AM
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those values look fine the shift time table is part of torqmanagment I leave some in on normal and 0 it out on performance
As far as the 1 to 2 I finally found a way to fix it dont adjust the force motor table instead there is a modifier table 1-2 upshift you will notice some negative and positive values referenced to temp play around with it add -1 across the board and see how you like it. Also the base shift pressure table you can 0 out the first couple columns that will help
On the force motor table nothing wrong with going down just dont go up. Ive messed with the last column being 0 or max value Iv found it grabs the gear better wot with it set at a max value both are supposed to be full bleed off.
Check out jimmy blues tunes that he's posted on horist his **** is extreme but works really well and will give you a base to go off Ive had good luck playing with his ls1 stuff and he really really knows his ****.
As far as the 1 to 2 I finally found a way to fix it dont adjust the force motor table instead there is a modifier table 1-2 upshift you will notice some negative and positive values referenced to temp play around with it add -1 across the board and see how you like it. Also the base shift pressure table you can 0 out the first couple columns that will help
On the force motor table nothing wrong with going down just dont go up. Ive messed with the last column being 0 or max value Iv found it grabs the gear better wot with it set at a max value both are supposed to be full bleed off.
Check out jimmy blues tunes that he's posted on horist his **** is extreme but works really well and will give you a base to go off Ive had good luck playing with his ls1 stuff and he really really knows his ****.
07-31-2005, 01:17 AM
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Thanks 02sierraz71_5.3.
I've found some other variances, with the TCC Apply/Release Speed vs. %TPS vs. Gear table....do I need to worry about changing these back to stock?
I've found some other variances, with the TCC Apply/Release Speed vs. %TPS vs. Gear table....do I need to worry about changing these back to stock?
07-31-2005, 01:30 AM
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TCC Apply/Release Speed vs. %TPS vs. Gear - NORMAL
STOCK '03 AVALANCHE
256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256
27 27 27 32 38 45 52 58 75 75 75 75 75 75 76 78 78
38 38 38 38 42 47 52 58 75 75 75 75 75 75 75 75 75
256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256
25 25 25 25 26 30 35 40 44 48 52 58 64 70 70 70 70
36 36 36 36 36 38 44 48 54 60 68 72 72 72 72 72 72
MY TRUCK
231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231
52 52 52 52 52 52 52 81 81 81 81 81 81 81 81 81 81
52 52 52 52 52 52 52 81 81 81 81 81 81 81 81 81 81
221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221
48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 68 68 68 68 68 68 68 68 68
48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 68 68 68 68 68 68 68 68 68
TCC Apply/Release Speed vs. %TPS vs. Gear - CRUISE
STOCK '03 AVALANCHE
256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256
27 27 27 32 39 46 54 62 75 75 75 75 75 75 76 78 78
38 38 38 38 41 48 56 64 75 75 75 75 75 75 75 75 75
256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256
25 25 25 25 26 30 35 40 44 48 52 58 64 70 70 70 70
36 36 36 36 36 38 44 48 54 60 68 72 72 72 72 72 72
MY TRUCK
231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231
52 52 52 52 52 52 52 81 81 81 81 81 81 81 81 81 81
52 52 52 52 52 52 52 81 81 81 81 81 81 81 81 81 81
221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221
48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 68 68 68 68 68 68 68 68 68
48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 68 68 68 68 68 68 68 68 68
TCC Apply/Release Speed vs. %TPS vs. Gear - PERFORMANCE
STOCK '03 AVALANCHE
255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255
38 38 38 38 38 40 43 43 75 75 75 75 75 75 75 75 75
54 54 54 54 54 54 54 54 54 54 57 70 70 70 70 70 70
237 237 237 237 237 237 237 237 237 237 237 237 237 237 237 237 237
34 34 34 34 34 34 34 34 34 37 57 70 70 70 70 70 70
52 52 52 52 52 52 52 52 52 53 57 70 70 70 70 70 70
MY TRUCK
231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231
52 52 52 52 52 52 52 81 81 81 81 81 81 81 81 81 81
52 52 52 52 52 52 52 81 81 81 81 81 81 81 81 81 81
221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221
48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 68 68 68 68 68 68 68 68 68
48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 68 68 68 68 68 68 68 68 68
TCC Apply/Release Speed vs. %TPS vs. Gear - HOT
STOCK '03 AVALANCHE
256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256
38 38 38 38 38 38 38 38 75 75 75 75 75 75 75 75 75
60 60 60 60 60 60 60 61 63 66 72 78 255 255 255 255 255
256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256
35 35 35 35 35 35 35 35 35 38 50 70 70 70 70 70 70
59 59 59 59 59 59 59 60 62 66 72 77 237 237 237 237 237
MY TRUCK
231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231
52 52 52 52 52 52 52 81 81 81 81 81 81 81 81 81 81
52 52 52 52 52 52 52 81 81 81 81 81 81 81 81 81 81
221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221
48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 68 68 68 68 68 68 68 68 68
48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 68 68 68 68 68 68 68 68 68
STOCK '03 AVALANCHE
256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256
27 27 27 32 38 45 52 58 75 75 75 75 75 75 76 78 78
38 38 38 38 42 47 52 58 75 75 75 75 75 75 75 75 75
256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256
25 25 25 25 26 30 35 40 44 48 52 58 64 70 70 70 70
36 36 36 36 36 38 44 48 54 60 68 72 72 72 72 72 72
MY TRUCK
231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231
52 52 52 52 52 52 52 81 81 81 81 81 81 81 81 81 81
52 52 52 52 52 52 52 81 81 81 81 81 81 81 81 81 81
221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221
48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 68 68 68 68 68 68 68 68 68
48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 68 68 68 68 68 68 68 68 68
TCC Apply/Release Speed vs. %TPS vs. Gear - CRUISE
STOCK '03 AVALANCHE
256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256
27 27 27 32 39 46 54 62 75 75 75 75 75 75 76 78 78
38 38 38 38 41 48 56 64 75 75 75 75 75 75 75 75 75
256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256
25 25 25 25 26 30 35 40 44 48 52 58 64 70 70 70 70
36 36 36 36 36 38 44 48 54 60 68 72 72 72 72 72 72
MY TRUCK
231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231
52 52 52 52 52 52 52 81 81 81 81 81 81 81 81 81 81
52 52 52 52 52 52 52 81 81 81 81 81 81 81 81 81 81
221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221
48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 68 68 68 68 68 68 68 68 68
48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 68 68 68 68 68 68 68 68 68
TCC Apply/Release Speed vs. %TPS vs. Gear - PERFORMANCE
STOCK '03 AVALANCHE
255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255
38 38 38 38 38 40 43 43 75 75 75 75 75 75 75 75 75
54 54 54 54 54 54 54 54 54 54 57 70 70 70 70 70 70
237 237 237 237 237 237 237 237 237 237 237 237 237 237 237 237 237
34 34 34 34 34 34 34 34 34 37 57 70 70 70 70 70 70
52 52 52 52 52 52 52 52 52 53 57 70 70 70 70 70 70
MY TRUCK
231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231
52 52 52 52 52 52 52 81 81 81 81 81 81 81 81 81 81
52 52 52 52 52 52 52 81 81 81 81 81 81 81 81 81 81
221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221
48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 68 68 68 68 68 68 68 68 68
48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 68 68 68 68 68 68 68 68 68
TCC Apply/Release Speed vs. %TPS vs. Gear - HOT
STOCK '03 AVALANCHE
256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256
38 38 38 38 38 38 38 38 75 75 75 75 75 75 75 75 75
60 60 60 60 60 60 60 61 63 66 72 78 255 255 255 255 255
256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256 256
35 35 35 35 35 35 35 35 35 38 50 70 70 70 70 70 70
59 59 59 59 59 59 59 60 62 66 72 77 237 237 237 237 237
MY TRUCK
231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231 231
52 52 52 52 52 52 52 81 81 81 81 81 81 81 81 81 81
52 52 52 52 52 52 52 81 81 81 81 81 81 81 81 81 81
221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221 221
48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 68 68 68 68 68 68 68 68 68
48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 68 68 68 68 68 68 68 68 68
07-31-2005, 04:42 PM
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Look at your Max Line Pressure under shift properties stock is 90. You were showing 96 in some of your tables. Most people on hptuners board say thats way to much. The shorter the shift time is the more firm the shift feels. Higher base shift pressures and short shift times give you a hard shift.
I have a shift kit with servo and run a slightly higher shift pressure and short shift times and have had no problems in 12K miles. I have stock max line pressure and force motor current.
I have a shift kit with servo and run a slightly higher shift pressure and short shift times and have had no problems in 12K miles. I have stock max line pressure and force motor current.
08-01-2005, 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Naked AV
Thanks 02sierraz71_5.3.
I've found some other variances, with the TCC Apply/Release Speed vs. %TPS vs. Gear table....do I need to worry about changing these back to stock?
I've found some other variances, with the TCC Apply/Release Speed vs. %TPS vs. Gear table....do I need to worry about changing these back to stock?
this will take tinkering to get a feel for it Im still messing with it periodically
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