Rear o2 Delete vs Gas mileage
#1
Rear o2 Delete vs Gas mileage
Since I don't have $80 for a new rear o2, can I just leave it in there & delete out using HPTuners? If so, will it affect my gas mileage?
Has anybody solid evidence on MPG loss, if any? How critical to performance output? For now, I wanted to remove the rear until I buy a new one. After my Dynatech install, it seems like I get about 10000 miles before it goes. It's always the passenger rear( or Bank 2 Sensor 2). This is going to be the 2nd time on this.
Here's my thoughts: Maybe when GM replaced under warranty the o2, could a pinced wire cause it?
A short on the o2 w/harness? Plus, what are odds o2 was faulty(defective) as a new part?
If I have backpressure seeping out @ slip fit on Dynatech crossover or flange after cat where it connects to my Corsa, could it be prematurely wacking out that rear o2? I'm calling it backpressure, maybe a minor exhaust leak is a better name( appears as black sooty appearance @ seams). I'm wondering since it's black that denotes rich, so the computer is feeding more/ less fuel in accordance o2 reading.
ANY IDEAS WHERE TO LOOK? No, I don't have a wideband hooked up either...yet, still in a box.
Has anybody solid evidence on MPG loss, if any? How critical to performance output? For now, I wanted to remove the rear until I buy a new one. After my Dynatech install, it seems like I get about 10000 miles before it goes. It's always the passenger rear( or Bank 2 Sensor 2). This is going to be the 2nd time on this.
Here's my thoughts: Maybe when GM replaced under warranty the o2, could a pinced wire cause it?
A short on the o2 w/harness? Plus, what are odds o2 was faulty(defective) as a new part?
If I have backpressure seeping out @ slip fit on Dynatech crossover or flange after cat where it connects to my Corsa, could it be prematurely wacking out that rear o2? I'm calling it backpressure, maybe a minor exhaust leak is a better name( appears as black sooty appearance @ seams). I'm wondering since it's black that denotes rich, so the computer is feeding more/ less fuel in accordance o2 reading.
ANY IDEAS WHERE TO LOOK? No, I don't have a wideband hooked up either...yet, still in a box.
#5
Plus, that SES lite is just irritating. I'm still learning, & even when I see it under the DTCs, I guess I gotta figure how to disable lite until I get a new o2(if I do). I know there's a few acronyms under the DTC info I looked at. MIL or something...memory fuzzy. If I delete info permanently w/HPT, as I learn to tune, then I'll worry. I'm sure not buyin that rear o2 every 10k miles.
#6
Go into Diagnostics and set the code to NO MIL. Do not turn them off just set it so the SES does not come on. If you turn them right OFF I think it frigs up the PCM or that is what I read.
I am not sure where to find that in HPT but if you look around or check the help file you should find it pretty easily.
I am not sure where to find that in HPT but if you look around or check the help file you should find it pretty easily.
#7
o2 Sensor
Cool. I was wondering what the cause was too. Along w/, where to look in HPT. I just haven't looked yet on the info, the NO MIL info helps. I'll check there. I thought I'd have more replies to my title. Maybe I should of said, o2 Problems &/ or where to look at cause; and how to modify.
If my immediate( or temporary) solution to just turn off works til I fork over $ for new o2, & w/ no ramifications, it might become a permanent fix. I mean hey, solving a problem w/o spending $, is ok in my book.
If my immediate( or temporary) solution to just turn off works til I fork over $ for new o2, & w/ no ramifications, it might become a permanent fix. I mean hey, solving a problem w/o spending $, is ok in my book.
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#10
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Bank 1 is drivers side, bank 2 is pass. Sensor 1 is the front, sensor 2 is the rear. Set anything for sensor 2 to not report, no MIL and uncheck the SES button. Should be about 8 things I think.
The heated sensors are so they will warm up and respond faster, not to light the cats off faster.
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