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Old Nov 12, 2008 | 04:35 PM
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currently tuning a gmc sierra 4.8 procharged truck and needing to know a couple of things.

what is the rail pressure on the sierra in from the factory? also, can anyone give me the gph rating of a stock pump and also what psi that is rated at?

another question for people who have tuned and/or are currently running a similar setup

rail pressure must increase 1:1 with boost pressure so that it does not effectively make the injector smaller. Are any of the related members here having any trouble with fuel control because of this. for example you have the right size injectors for the combination and have the injector flow rate table scaled properly but have afr problems etc. etc. because of the boost increase? any info on this would be much appreciated, thanks.
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Old Nov 12, 2008 | 04:43 PM
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what year of truck? does it have a return fuel line?

if it does have a return line then the factory fuel presure is 3 bar or something like 59psi. the factory fpr is close enough to a 1-1 to work fine. not sure on pump rating for flow or psi but i can tell you it is good to a little over 400rwhp. a simple and cheap extra inline pump will take you to something like 600rwhp.

if it does not have a return line then all the info above is wrong
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Old Nov 12, 2008 | 04:49 PM
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should have included in previous post... year model 2004 and is returnless.
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Old Nov 12, 2008 | 04:58 PM
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Just set the IFR right and go. THats what I did on my turbo truck.... 04 silvy
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Old Nov 12, 2008 | 05:00 PM
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Being an '04 and it is returnless you will need to scale the IFR table to deliver more fuel as the MAP goes up. There is a XL worksheet around somewhere to help with this based on the injectors that you are using. Redhardsupra has it on his web site. If you search for him you should be able to find it.

The in-tank pump in the '04 has a higher LPH rating than the earlier pumps and you may be able to get away with it for a while if you don't pully up to increase the boost level. Hopefully someone will chime in with more exact information but it is available on here if you search around a bit.
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Old Nov 12, 2008 | 05:03 PM
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here that spreadsheet. Look towards the top right of that page...

http://redhardsupra.blogspot.com/
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Old Nov 12, 2008 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Mort
Being an '04 and it is returnless you will need to scale the IFR table to deliver more fuel as the MAP goes up. There is a XL worksheet around somewhere to help with this based on the injectors that you are using. Redhardsupra has it on his web site. If you search for him you should be able to find it.

The in-tank pump in the '04 has a higher LPH rating than the earlier pumps and you may be able to get away with it for a while if you don't pully up to increase the boost level. Hopefully someone will chime in with more exact information but it is available on here if you search around a bit.
i know how to scale ifr table. was needing to know the info on fuel pressure regulator in order to do so. also needed pump info to know estimate how far it would go in this application. would you have that info by any chance? i appreciate the help.

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Old Nov 12, 2008 | 05:31 PM
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I have an '03 so I never bothered to memorize the '04 info except in a general way . The FPR (in-tank) in the '04 is rated at a constant 4 bar pressure (58 psi) as far as I know. The stock pump is probably rated in the 225 LPH range but again I am not 100% sure on that.

Hopefully someone who knows for sure will help you out with this.
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Old Nov 12, 2008 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Mort
I have an '03 so I never bothered to memorize the '04 info except in a general way . The FPR (in-tank) in the '04 is rated at a constant 4 bar pressure (58 psi) as far as I know. The stock pump is probably rated in the 225 LPH range but again I am not 100% sure on that.

Hopefully someone who knows for sure will help you out with this.
i feel confident that 58psi is correct now. i was told the fpr pressure was rated @ 58 psi before this post but wasn't sure so was asking as to reinforce it.

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Old Nov 12, 2008 | 05:51 PM
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thanks guys for taking the time to give input on this thread. much appreciated.
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