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Old Jun 13, 2010 | 09:57 PM
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thinking about buying my first firearm. to be honest i have never really been into guns but i saw this one and fell in love with it. it seems very versatile, effective and i think it is reasonably priced. does anyone here own one or have you shot one? how did you like it? opinions?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hQtywZFxDg
http://www.bondarms.com/ifirearms.php#snakeslayer
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Old Jun 13, 2010 | 10:59 PM
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The best thing for you to do is decide why you are purchasing a weapon, then go down to the local shooting range and rent different types of weapons and calibers.

Are you purchasing the weapon for a novelty issue, which that is how I took the Youtube video?

If you are thinking of home and/or personal protection, you do not want to be limited to two shots. If you like the fact that you can shoot .410 gauge, I would recommend " The Judge " instead. If you watched the movie, Max Payne, he used it when he was the bathroom shooting at the guy crawling on the floor under the ******* stalls. My father is actually thinking of getting this weapon as well. I am not a fan of this weapon.

Personally for me, I would go with a semi-automatic handgun. My agency started with a 9mm round, however, we felt they were not true "people" stoppers, if you know what I mean. So go with a larger caliber.

The glock is a great concealable weapon and light...however, it isn't for everyone. I have four weapons personally. 3 Sig Sauers (P229 (.357), P239 (.357) and P232 (.380)) and for my ultimate home protection my Mossberg 500 with Pistol Grip, to include the vertical grip for the pump action. I have the side ammo holder as well. No need to aim with that...point in the general direction and begin shooting..

Good Luck on your selection...

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Old Jun 13, 2010 | 11:23 PM
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The best thing for you to do is decide why you are purchasing a weapon, then go down to the local shooting range and rent different types of weapons and calibers.

Are you purchasing the weapon for a novelty issue, which that is how I took the Youtube video?

If you are thinking of home and/or personal protection, you do not want to be limited to two shots. If you like the fact that you can shoot .410 gauge, I would recommend " The Judge " instead. If you watched the movie, Max Payne, he used it when he was the bathroom shooting at the guy crawling on the floor under the ******* stalls. My father is actually thinking of getting this weapon as well. I am not a fan of this weapon.

Personally for me, I would go with a semi-automatic handgun. My agency started with a 9mm round, however, we felt they were not true "people" stoppers, if you know what I mean. So go with a larger caliber.

The glock is a great concealable weapon and light...however, it isn't for everyone. I have four weapons personally. 3 Sig Sauers (P229 (.357), P239 (.357) and P232 (.380)) and for my ultimate home protection my Mossberg 500 with Pistol Grip, to include the vertical grip for the pump action. I have the side ammo holder as well. No need to aim with that...point in the general direction and begin shooting..

Good Luck on your selection...

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couldnt have said it any better myself. and with the shotgun, u dont even have to shoot all you do is rack the slide and they will **** themselves. and with a shotgun, u can use birdshot in your home for home defense, because you wont get over penetration through walls and running the risk of hitting a loved one like with a handgun or rifle. just find a weapon you are comfortable with, and go with it. try out a few. and i a agree, 9mm is to small of a round. an awsome in between is the .40. recoil of a 9mm, stopping power of a .45.
hope this helped!
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Old Jun 13, 2010 | 11:30 PM
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definitely not as your first and only firearm. You want to choose something that can serve a few purposes. A .357 is a good choice in my opinion for it's ability to shoot a multitude of loads.

The advice above was sound, rent some before you choose. What looks cool and works for one guy may not fit you the same way.

I'd recommend a revolver in .357 for a first gun but if you want to look at semi-auto the .40 is an effective caliber. The Springfield would be my choice in semi.
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Old Jun 13, 2010 | 11:49 PM
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What they said. This is a neat gun, but not for your first like Bill said. Go to a local gun shop around you and talk to them about what you are wanting. There are so many choices out there to choose from.

On the other hand, if you fell in love with this one as you say then by all means go for it. In the end it is your choice, but this is kind of a single purpose type weapon.
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Old Jun 14, 2010 | 08:03 AM
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i have a little 22 handgun that my mom gave to me, this would be the first gun i purchase for myself. i dont like that it is limited to 2 shots but it just seems like a badass little gun other than that. i will look around more before i make a final decision though. thank guys
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Old Jun 14, 2010 | 08:26 AM
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Well what are you wanting this gun for. If we know what your purposes are, then we can help you a lot more. I have looked at and shot every duck hunting shotgun on the market and I know a fair amount about them whereas that is my "thing" if you want to say it all corny like that. Now I am not saying that you are buying a duck gun, just making the point that there is def someone on here like me only with pistols. If we know just what you want to use it for then we can be more assistance to you. Even though we would all like to have one of each.
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Old Jun 14, 2010 | 09:22 AM
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i want something to carry with me in in the woods and by the lake in case a varmit trys to attack me and if needed for personal protection if someone breaks into my apt or trys to car jack me or something
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Old Jun 14, 2010 | 09:52 AM
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Again I'd highly suggest a short barrel revolver in .357. If you are not aware the .357 will chamber .38 special .38+P .357magnum. There is NO OTHER chambering that is as versitile or with as many different loads (home defence, game, frangible). No other single firearm is going to give you the abuility to defend in the field, at home...well except for a trusty old shotgun
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Old Jun 14, 2010 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by bmnss
The best thing for you to do is decide why you are purchasing a weapon, then go down to the local shooting range and rent different types of weapons and calibers.

Personally for me, I would go with a semi-automatic handgun. My agency started with a 9mm round, however, we felt they were not true "people" stoppers, if you know what I mean. So go with a larger caliber.

The glock is a great concealable weapon and light...however, it isn't for everyone. I have four weapons personally. 3 Sig Sauers (P229 (.357), P239 (.357) and P232 (.380)) and for my ultimate home protection my Mossberg 500 with Pistol Grip, to include the vertical grip for the pump action. I have the side ammo holder as well. No need to aim with that...point in the general direction and begin shooting...
454navyss, I feel this advice is of greatest help to you, more than opinions. The statement in general, but esp. the red part.
While IDK the diff betw. the P229 & P239, I'm more interested in the scattergun. Could I see a pic of this vertical grip on the 500, I'm intrigued? I can't recall seeing too many w/. both that & a pistol grip.

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couldnt have said it any better myself. and with the shotgun, u dont even have to shoot all you do is rack the slide and they will **** themselves. and with a shotgun, u can use birdshot in your home for home defense, because you wont get over penetration through walls and running the risk of hitting a loved one like with a handgun or rifle. an awsome in between is the .40. recoil of a 9mm, stopping power of a .45.
hope this helped!
Food for thought. It goes thru a wall & hurts someone, in addition to a big hole, u might open yourself up to a lawsuit depending on what happens.
I like what Bill said, .357 revolver for a first gun or .40 semiauto. If I may .45 too.

A friend just got a S&W .40 (SW9VE, I believe) holds 14. It's his 1st & only handgun. I said why no revolver? He said why restrict yourself to5, 6 7, or 8 shots?
To which I said, if u can't get it done w/. that number of shots, u might as well turn it on yourself. Cause u obviously can't shoot. Then I added, revolvers don't jam.

Originally Posted by 454navyss
i want something to carry with me in in the woods and by the lake in case a varmit tries to attack me and if needed for personal protection if someone breaks into my apt or tries to car jack me or something
Either way, u want it for varmits, just some are bigger than others. :nunchuk1:

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