I get your point. But, "cam only 5.3 NA trucks" is a bit rich.
The only N/A 5.3 powered truck I've ever seen runnin' mid 12s had a ****-load more the "just" a cam. And it didn't have minor things like lights, bumpers, tailgate and spare tire.
The Hemi is a let-down, IMO.
But dayam, I wouldn't want to make it seem like the best way to run mid 12s, with a Dodge truck, is a cammed 5.3 swap, either. It's not exactly realistic.
Anything has potential. Just look for the 4.2 (yeah, friggin' V6) powered F150 runnin' 11s. It can be done.

 

I posted like that for a response.Cam and bolt ons is what I should have said.

 

"jazzed that it ran middle 12's" on a bad tune while running out of fuel with the wrong converter in it AND on street tires? Tell the whole story "Mr go to DTW and bring back the half truth to pt.net" to make you feel better

 

Lets break it down,was there a tranny issue again and again?
Does he not have several people over there telling him "good run"

Is the "wrong" converter a higher stall than the "right" one?


Street tires? isnt it a 4x4?

If I am 1/2 truth then your beyond the spin zone.

 

I think your brand loyalty is keeping you from seeing the good in what that guy is doing, gonzo.
Well, you wanted a response ...
MAN! You can't stand the idea of giving that guy credit can you?
I didn't laugh at, or make fun of, in any way, the guy with the mid 12 second 5.3 because he had to reassemble his truck before he went home (meaning he had to take it apart to run the number). Even though, I must admit, I found it kinda funny. I still commended his runs.
However, if he'd been bashing someone else, I'da had a problem with that. And I have a problem with you (and anyone else who is) bashing, just for the sake of bashing.
And, I'da challenged him to race my fully asembled Ranger, on the spot, just to put him is his place. But he, unlike you, wasn't bashing anyone and was not out of line. He was (rightly) proud of his accomplishment and didn't seem too concerned with what everyone else was doing.
And there should be several people over there telling him "good run". Based on what I've read about his mods, it IS a good run!
I'm about ready to suggest you go to his track and whip his Ram with your truck. But, something tells me your truck isn't capable of beating the Ram you are bashing.
Maybe, we should wait and give him a chance to get it all worked out. It's not like we can run mid 12s so easily with 5.3s (or 6.0s, for that matter) without a converter swap.
The big difference is, there are many, many, people with LS powered vehicles who have figured it out for us. So we don't have to do any of the R&D. We can just ask/read and get the one that's best. He needs time to research and make changes.
Look at the F-bodies. How many of them broke the rear ends? Thousands. Now there are other choices and we don't hear much about it. But we sure as hell broke 'em! Problem solved ... Eventually! It just didn't happen over night.
And look aroung. How many Radix'd 6.0s do you see that still run 14s?
I will not argue against that. It should hook they way it is.
He posted facts. I didn't see what I would call spin. He just added the parts he said you left off (which, interestingly enough, you didn't deny).
I'm not typing for him, or anyone else. I'm just saying you are pretty much looking at this whole thing with tunnel vision and that is wrong.
If you'd have been playing with modded LS1 F-bodies just a few years back, you should know there were some pitfalls. And in that case, I think you'd have a different point of view.
Try to lose the brand loyalty and look at the bigger picture.
It's a truck and it's modded and that generates R&D, which is a good thing.

 

Not spinning anything- just telling the everything.

Yes- the tranny is an issue, but not just for them- for anyone pushing more than stock power. We just haven't lucked up yet and found a replacement as you guys have. He has had his tranny out several times but not all for breakages- removed for shift kit, removed for Suncoast upgrades, removed twice for converter- only 2 times for breakages I believe. Hell mine has been out twice and I've never had a problem with it, not yet anyway. I expect to blast it though- I've almost tripled the stock hp.

There are many people telling him good run, why wouldn't they? He is the first non nitrous hemi ram on DTW in the 12's. We don't have every aftermatket performance company dropping parts in our laps.

The wrong converter is a higher stall converter that will shut the pcm down if he stalls it past about 3k. In fact, the converter caused some tranny issues before his best run. I'm having a new converter built and all along planned on going 3500- but now I'll be stuck at 3k til the pcm will let me go higher. 3k is not optimal but we have to work with what we are given. Which is another reason we are happy with what gains we get since we have to find out ourselves what works and what doesn't since we get NO HELP from DC.

He ran in 2 wheel drive so, yep, street tires is a problem. The truck was in total street trim, 5275 lbs with driver, on street tires and the exhaust going through mufflers and resonaters except for the last run. (Which was the quickest)

I think he did pretty well and I know he's got much better coming.

 

Nice post An11secranger but this is expected from gonzo. If you read any and every post he's made on here re th ehemi ram it's negative and most every post he makes on Dodge Truck World, over 700 posts by the way, are about the same way. I like to post with him though, keeps it interesting.

 

Why wont this thread DIE!!!!

Good luck to all the DC guys and I hope they unlock the "****" computer

 

I told him it was to much stall.i told him that tranny will have to come out every week. i told him it was no were near doing what GM does,it doesnt matter that I predictided the future that fact remains the average joe cant go as fast as a GM,thats my point .I dont care about how may thousands colt throws at it,he spends money like its someone elses,with the money spent how fast does he go?He dont answer that question, yet just gives times and dates promissed and for some time now no completed date,dont you realize once you guys figure it out the performance world has moved on to the next generation on GMs and fords while your still palying catch up.You Dodge guys spending someone elses monies trying to go fast are not helping the average hemi head that thinks he has the fastest truck on the road modded or stock.You guys are not helping educate the average public.Colt 1 question: your truck today,how fast is it and what would it cost the average guy to duplicate?

 

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