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Old 12-21-2013, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Chevy_King1500
its not true 85% ethanol

when i was tuning it i knew my part throttle fuel trims were 1-2% error when i was running regular gas.

so i ran the tank as low as i could and filled up with e85 then i just kept bumping my stoich down until my fuel trims were back to the 1-2%

and then i tuned WOT
This is what I'm going to do for a couple tanks. I don't have a fuel tester yet so this is my only option
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yup, i lowered stoich to like 13 and just watched my wideband once it got to lambda 1.05 i lowered it some more and so on.
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I've always wanted to add an ethanol sensor to my truck and I might get that done soon. I'm thinking I can just plumb it into the return line and run wires back to the pcm. I haven't found anyone who has done it so I really didnt want to buy the sensor because of the price. But I think it will be beneficial at this point in my build.
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Since you've got an 03 with the newer PCM I'm pretty sure you could use a factory flex fuel sensor. The sensor can be had pretty cheaply off ebay used. I would have considered one but there's really no good way to get it to work with the 01-02 operating system. And the aftermarket sensors I've looked at that go on the return line have tiny little openings which I wouldn't want restricting flow.

So, I just use a manual ethanol content tester. I only get E from one station and in the summer it comes out to around 82% ethanol, which is true E85. If you tune for that ethanol percentage and you get a tank of 70% it's not really a big deal at all. You'll be richer and anything from about E50 to E85 has essentially the same knock resistance.
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I just found a thread where Dsteck added a content sensor but it was a thread for the newer E40 pcm's. The sensor he used is part number 13577429 and I think it is from a newer cobalt. Not sure if it will work but it will be worth a shot over the $300 stock sensor from my year truck. I don't know if my harness has a plug for the sensor or if I will just run the wires strait to the pcm. We will see when I start digging into it.
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Well I went ahead and filled the truck up with corn juice a couple hours ago. It really does feel like a whole different truck. I put 20 1/2 gallons in so I'm guessing it is around E50-E70. I can't believe how much more power it has. I looked at the log on the way home and never got above 65% tps. Tomorrow I'm going to drive the **** out of the truck

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So I've been running 13 degrees of timing with pump 91. The tune seems to be good with E85 so I'm going to up the timing 1-2* and see how she likes it. I made a couple pulls today and my IDC is already at 75% with these FIC 850cc injectors.. I just bought these damn things.

Looks like after the holidays, I will get a double walbro 450 set up in the truck and then be limited by the injectors. I hope I can get 650rwhp out of them before having to swap for something bigger. In the end, I think E85 is the right choice for this truck anyway.

What injectors are you E85 turbo guys running?
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The injectors will depend on your fuel pressure. It's a balance between flow from the fuel pumps versus injector flow. I've been seeing mid 70s IDCs on my FIC 1000s with E48. However, I know Smokeshow made 900+ rwhp on E48 on the FIC 1000s. Obviously they wont go that far on E85.

I'm probably going to go back to full E85 myself and add another 450. I just checked ebay recently and the darn things are now going for $138! They were $178 when I bought mine.

I want to get a little ballsy with the timing because I dont really feel like I'm taking advantage of the E85. At the same time I don't want to blow the motor, but who here hasn't when pushing things.
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My injectors are 71# at 4bar. I'm going to get as much as I can out of them.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/forced-in...si-718-hp.html

Running 17-18* of timing on 15lbs
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Originally Posted by GMCtrk
The injectors will depend on your fuel pressure. It's a balance between flow from the fuel pumps versus injector flow. I've been seeing mid 70s IDCs on my FIC 1000s with E48. However, I know Smokeshow made 900+ rwhp on E48 on the FIC 1000s. Obviously they wont go that far on E85.

I'm probably going to go back to full E85 myself and add another 450. I just checked ebay recently and the darn things are now going for $138! They were $178 when I bought mine.

I want to get a little ballsy with the timing because I dont really feel like I'm taking advantage of the E85. At the same time I don't want to blow the motor, but who here hasn't when pushing things.
How much boost and timing are you running right now? I'd imagine that my set up should easily be able to handle 15* of timing at 10.5lbs. I'd like to up the boost too but I know I'm on the edge of my fuel pump right now. I have only done pulls halfway through 2nd gear and haven't seen it go lean but I'm sure the pump wouldn't be able to keep up if I ran it down the 1/4 mile.

Originally Posted by Chevy_King1500
My injectors are 71# at 4bar. I'm going to get as much as I can out of them.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/forced-in...si-718-hp.html

Running 17-18* of timing on 15lbs
Holy timing.. I will have to do a ton of logging before trying anything over 15*. I bet your truck feels strong where it is at right now. Are you using one Walbro 450 right now?


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