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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 10:12 PM
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it runs, it drives, it sounds absolutely incrediable, swsssssssssssssssssss, i dont think i will get tired of that sound EVER.

it isn't so fast though, 2 burnt wires might explain some of that , thing is it didn't even feel that bad. i could hear it missing and spooling, a/f looked ok and no knock, pulled about the same as before though, HA, sweet, pulls like before missing on 2 cylinders

i talked to seth about the wires touching the header, the kit came with 2 socks to put over those wires and i had them on there, it still burnt prety much clean thru the wires in only about 10minutes. seth has MSD wires and they aparently have a shorter boot on them that allows the wire to turn up sooner without touching the header, i knew i would need a set but thought i would try, didn't work so well.

without even trying hard and in 2wd i was able to get a couple psi of boost without moving, i see geting 5+psi on my launch, maybe alot more, i was seeing about 7psi at WOT.

the pipeing came apart several times, mainly due to one of the pipes being too short and me trying to cheat everything a little to make it work, a longer pipe is on the way. this turbo is louder than a semi going down the interstate and i have no exhaust.

i still have alot of work to do but i am prety happy with the initial test run, got to set up a heat exchanger, fix up the exhaust, get some wires and about 100 other things.
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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 10:18 PM
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No exhaust on a turbo engine sounds GOOD
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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 10:19 PM
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Hey Parish, couldn't you put a 90* boot on the end that goes into the plug, not use the metal shield obviously and use the fireproof boot covers? Get a set of the longer ls1 wires and cut the ends off, use 90* ends from a MSD wire set and get the accell fireproof boot covers. Its an idea at least.
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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 10:21 PM
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Excellent man, boost is addictive for sure. Low RPM spooling is one of the coolest sounds around hands-down. My lil WRX you can hear spooling big time just cruising about and pumps out 16.5psi.

How much boost will your setup allow on pump gas?
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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by mudz5.3
Hey Parish, couldn't you put a 90* boot on the end that goes into the plug, not use the metal shield obviously and use the fireproof boot covers? Get a set of the longer ls1 wires and cut the ends off, use 90* ends from a MSD wire set and get the accell fireproof boot covers. Its an idea at least.

Outstanding idea!
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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Hit Man X
How much boost will your setup allow on pump gas?
no idea, 6-7 was max before with my non intercooled whipple, seth is telling me he wouldn't be suprized to see me get 14 or so psi on pump gas , says the big cam i have will lower the "dynamic compresion ratio" alot and let me get away with alot of boost.

on his set up he is at 14psi on 91 octane with 0 knock. he has a 5.3 with a t72 and a bigger cam than me.
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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by parish8
no idea, 6-7 was max before with my non intercooled whipple, seth is telling me he wouldn't be suprized to see me get 14 or so psi on pump gas , says the big cam i have will lower the "dynamic compresion ratio" alot and let me get away with alot of boost.

on his set up he is at 14psi on 91 octane with 0 knock. he has a 5.3 with a t72 and a bigger cam than me.


Awesome, that turbo should support some serious power on 98+ octane.

Are you going to have to run the low imp injectors (the largest high imps I've seen are like 42lbs/hr) and that turbo's gonna max that MAF if you plan a 400"+ motor too...
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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 11:28 PM
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i have some 57lb injectors in there, they are more like 66lb's in an ls1. i think they will hold me for a long time, on the dyno i saw 325rwhp and was at only 42% dutycycle with them, even being more rich for the turbo i think they will hold 600+rwhp. the maf is another story, i haven't really looked into my options there but i have a feeling i will need to figure that out prety soon.
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Sweet!
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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 11:46 PM
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Ah yeah those injectors should work pretty well for most anything. Is there a limit on the psi of the stock fuel system or will it go to 85psi +? I'd be scared over that much psi on a fuel system (but I've never pushed the limits on one of these Gen III motors)

I'm not 100% sure what the stock MAF can run powerwise, but 500-600hp sounds about like the limits of it due to the diameter (and the bar inside it) from pulling mine a while ago. Pro-M makes some BIG MAF's for the Ford crowd (that I'm part of ) sizes in the 95mm+ so I'd maybe see if they have something to offer to help. You could potentially have the OE ported to increase total flow and recalibrated specifically for the airflow, it'd be tough but doable if you have to keep MAF. It'd be something like scaling the MAF electronics down for the injector sizing (or close to them) then using the EDIT to tune them from there.

If not, Speed Density isn't bad if you tune it right. All the fast TPI cars are SD and LOTS of Mustangs run Speed Density and flat out haul some ***. SD is harder to work with if idle vac is low, some computers freak out due to that. SD is just a more exact tuning by true numbers vs using the MAF to calculate the airflow.

On the nitrous you are using... is it a dry or wet shot?
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