I call the guy from ebay this morning , he said they include the Y and the lowest he can do is $550

 

order two pair 1 for you 1 for me ! lol

 

I dont know wich ones to buy now the lpp's or the tri-y couse i really wanna loose a little torque down low so i can lauch at 3k and not have a problem spinning my tires on 4hi, so dont know and i wouldent mind the top end of long tube's

 

Make it 3....lol

Back to the op, I don't know about gains from shortys to lts, but a guy with a nnbs on gm fullsize put some lt's and ory on his from stock and it picked up 24/24 at the wheels. It seems like a lot of money for just 24 horsepower but is such an essential component for future upgrades..

 

I don't know about buying thoose or the Pacesette's .

 

iam fine wich ever 1 just remember mine is an 03 4wd

 

I think shotys to LTs will be about the same ,cause my shortys look exactly as the stock manifolds inside.

 

Sealed box buddy! That's how I fit my 3w7's in the trunk and build the box inside of the car.. (pain in the @$$) and honestly not worth it! I used to have 1 15" juggernaut MMATS and it was WAAAAAY louder than my 3 W7's... Not as much SQ but WAY more SPL! I did the same thing on my stepside silverado, my juggernaut vs 2 W7's in the bed of the truck and it was WAY louder too.. I should never sold it..

Back to the OP.. I used to have JBA Shorties on my truck bud and switched for pacesetters lt's and honestly it was day-night difference! Woke the truck up really nice! Plus you'll get a meaner exhaust note by far! Go for it! Btw ceramic coated is well worth the money! Just my 2 cents!

 

guys stop looking around just go longtubes... ive got them and i love them. their cheaper and well proven headers...