Radix VS Procharger VS livernoismotorsports GM Truck Turbo Kit
Apr 26, 2005 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by moregrip
wonder how much boost this blower motor is making
probably around 50lbs or so
probably around 50lbs or so
Apr 26, 2005 | 12:24 PM
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Well...the TURBO-JET in an F-16 makes around 100,000hp at supersonic speeds.....and by definition that IS a turbocharged engine 
The Roots Blowers on those things also take about 800hp to just turn them !!!......I'm betting that engine with properly sized turbos would make that same hp with considereably less parasitic drag.....
y'know...this is fun...I haven't argued something really good with you in quite a while grippy
The Roots Blowers on those things also take about 800hp to just turn them !!!......I'm betting that engine with properly sized turbos would make that same hp with considereably less parasitic drag.....
y'know...this is fun...I haven't argued something really good with you in quite a while grippy
Apr 26, 2005 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by lotsofhp
I was going to post the same thing. Don't be hatin on blowers when the fastest accelerating cars on earth are running them.
I'm not hatin' on blowers, I'm just stating the truth....all things being equal a turbo will make more power than a blower
Apr 26, 2005 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Yelo
Well...the TORBO-JET in an F-16 makes around 100,000hp at supersonic speeds.....
The Roots Blowers on those things also take about 800hp to just turn them !!!......I'm betting that engine with properly sized turbos would make that same hp with considereably less parasitic drag.....
y'know...this is fun...I haven't argued something really good with you in quite a while grippy
The Roots Blowers on those things also take about 800hp to just turn them !!!......I'm betting that engine with properly sized turbos would make that same hp with considereably less parasitic drag.....
y'know...this is fun...I haven't argued something really good with you in quite a while grippy
900HP to drive the blower!
http://motortrend.com/features/perfo...ers/index.html
turbos?-as in two or more?-I've heard at higher HP levels they tend to be rather tricky to dail in.
Apr 26, 2005 | 12:29 PM
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yelo...real qwick buddy...... there are plenty of fast turbo, and supercharged trucks/cars out there. The quickest ls1 right now is supercharged. I'm not here to start a pissing match. But when people come on here bragging about one being better than the other, because they are partial. Doesn't sit well with me. But thats me. I guess I am better than some at seeing threw bull ****.
I believe we are talking gas motors, here, so a diesel have no play here.
You are right about there being down falls to both set ups. One being cost, tunning, and being able to install it.
I believe we are talking gas motors, here, so a diesel have no play here.
You are right about there being down falls to both set ups. One being cost, tunning, and being able to install it.
Apr 26, 2005 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Yelo
all things being equal a turbo will make more power than a blower
do you have any links to a comparable setup w/turbos running 7500hp?
there certainly aren't any running quicker than a tired old Roots Blower at the dragstrips
Apr 26, 2005 | 12:36 PM
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J dubb: I sad the fastest NBS TRUCK......parish8's 2003 RCSB Z71.....10.65 @ 132mph....running a Cmotorsports T76 Turbo kit
I'm not trying to get in a pissing match either....but the facts stand that all other things being equal an turbocharger is CAPABLE of making a THAN ANY OTHER FORCED INDUCTION SYSTEM
I'm not trying to get in a pissing match either....but the facts stand that all other things being equal an turbocharger is CAPABLE of making a THAN ANY OTHER FORCED INDUCTION SYSTEM
Apr 26, 2005 | 12:43 PM
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yelo.... I completely disagree. Between s/c and turbo, it all depends on the kit. thats all there is to it.
I agree parish8's truck is the fastest to date 2003 rcsb z71. I mean how do you want to narrow down the catagory? JLP has run 9.88 in a lightning.......with a supercharger.
I agree parish8's truck is the fastest to date 2003 rcsb z71. I mean how do you want to narrow down the catagory? JLP has run 9.88 in a lightning.......with a supercharger.
Apr 26, 2005 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by moregrip
honestly, that has yet to be proven, to the best of my knowledge anyway.
do you have any links to a comparable setup w/turbos running 7500hp?
there certainly aren't any running quicker than a tired old Roots Blower at the dragstrips
do you have any links to a comparable setup w/turbos running 7500hp?
there certainly aren't any running quicker than a tired old Roots Blower at the dragstrips
the Roots Blowers are used in Top-Fuel because of both class-restrictions and because that are just plain easier to setup and keep running, I'm not debating which is an all-around better setup here.....if I was I'd have to say a Twin-Screw or Roots supercharger because of reliability and ease of install/maintenance, What I'm tring to say is that a turbo has a higher power-output potential than a Roots supercharger, We've all known for years that centrifugal supercharger (Procharger or Vortech) have a higher power output potential than a Roots blower....and they were designed to operate like a belt-driven turbocharger !
Apr 26, 2005 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Nissan Performance
Prime examples of the awesome potential of turbo charging are engines from Formula Ones late great pre-restriction turbo era. At this point of racing history, before they were banned because too much power was being made, making the cars unsafe, beyond human control, the development of the 4-stroke engine was at it's peak. A typical 1500cc (this was the FIA displacement limit for turbocharged motors at the time) motor in qualifying trim made over 1500 hp. This power level is a confirmed fact from contacts in the racing industry, from engineers working for a smaller, less successful F-1 team. If a backmarker team's qualifying motor made 1580 hp we must wonder how much power the all conquering at the time Honda engines made? Imagine your D15 powered Honda DX making 1500 hp!
In the early 80's, the domestic performance turbo guru, Gale Banks tried to develop a turbocharged Top Fuel Dragster. Even with only 20% nitromethane (a 90%+ mixture of this powerful, nearly explosive oxidizer was typical at the time for top fuel racers) in the fuel, the motor developed so much explosive power that the drivetrains at that time could not contain the power produced, making the car undriveable, unreliable and uncompetitive. The team lacked the money to fully develop the concept and soon the change fearing NHRA banned turbochargers from Top Fuel before a real well funded turbocharged team could come upon the scene.
In the early 80's, the domestic performance turbo guru, Gale Banks tried to develop a turbocharged Top Fuel Dragster. Even with only 20% nitromethane (a 90%+ mixture of this powerful, nearly explosive oxidizer was typical at the time for top fuel racers) in the fuel, the motor developed so much explosive power that the drivetrains at that time could not contain the power produced, making the car undriveable, unreliable and uncompetitive. The team lacked the money to fully develop the concept and soon the change fearing NHRA banned turbochargers from Top Fuel before a real well funded turbocharged team could come upon the scene.