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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 03:21 PM
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Whats the ideal wot a/f for alcohol?
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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 03:51 PM
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what kind of valve springs do you have?
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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 04:06 PM
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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 04:10 PM
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i read somewhere its from 7.1 to 9.1
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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 04:12 PM
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Stoich for Methanol is 6.5 A/F=1.00 Lambda

Stoich for Ethanol 9.0 A/F=1.00 Lambda
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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by dirt track racer 81
Whats the ideal wot a/f for alcohol?
It depends greatly on what type & concentration of alcohol, but here is a list of the stoichiometric air-fuel ratio's for different fuels to give you something to look at now. Typically the ratio will be between 7.1 to 9.1 for alcohol. Also pre-ignition can be problem unless the mixture is kept well on the rich side. The reason for this is that if the mixture is on the weak side it burns slowly and can still be so doing when the exhaust valve has opened which then becomes overheated. This in turn ignites the next charge before the correct time, the whole process becoming a chain reaction causing even more rise in temperature and so it goes on until the piston holes and other damage then follows.

Gasoline: 14.7

Natural gas: 17.2

Propane: 15.5

Butyl Alcohol: 11.2

Ethanol: 9

Methanol: 6.4

Hydrogen: 34

Hexa-Decane: 15

Diesel: 14,6
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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 1Bear
It depends greatly on what type & concentration of alcohol, but here is a list of the stoichiometric air-fuel ratio's for different fuels to give you something to look at now. Typically the ratio will be between 7.1 to 9.1 for alcohol. Also pre-ignition can be problem unless the mixture is kept well on the rich side. The reason for this is that if the mixture is on the weak side it burns slowly and can still be so doing when the exhaust valve has opened which then becomes overheated. This in turn ignites the next charge before the correct time, the whole process becoming a chain reaction causing even more rise in temperature and so it goes on until the piston holes and other damage then follows.

Gasoline: 14.7

Natural gas: 17.2

Propane: 15.5

Butyl Alcohol: 11.2

Ethanol: 9

Methanol: 6.4

Hydrogen: 34

Hexa-Decane: 15

Diesel: 14,6
There ya go
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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Phantom
what kind of valve springs do you have?
lol better than yours..
Originally Posted by 1Bear
It depends greatly on what type & concentration of alcohol, but here is a list of the stoichiometric air-fuel ratio's for different fuels to give you something to look at now. Typically the ratio will be between 7.1 to 9.1 for alcohol. Also pre-ignition can be problem unless the mixture is kept well on the rich side. The reason for this is that if the mixture is on the weak side it burns slowly and can still be so doing when the exhaust valve has opened which then becomes overheated. This in turn ignites the next charge before the correct time, the whole process becoming a chain reaction causing even more rise in temperature and so it goes on until the piston holes and other damage then follows.

Gasoline: 14.7

Natural gas: 17.2

Propane: 15.5

Butyl Alcohol: 11.2

Ethanol: 9

Methanol: 6.4

Hydrogen: 34

Hexa-Decane: 15

Diesel: 14,6
yea i know what stoich for methanol is.. like for gas it 14.7 and we like to run 12.8 wot, when i go to strap this on the dyno what do I want to run wot?
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Originally Posted by dirt track racer 81
lol better than yours..

yea i know what stoich for methanol is.. like for gas it 14.7 and we like to run 12.8 wot, when i go to strap this on the dyno what do I want to run wot?
What type of Alcohol?
Ethanol,Methanol or what?
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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 04:50 PM
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itll be methanol
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