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4l80e no workie----Trans or converter?

Old Dec 29, 2013 | 08:52 PM
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Bottom line, with 0 psi line pressure, your transmission needs to come back out.
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Old Dec 29, 2013 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Circle-D
Fairly certain it is not the converter. For the transmission pump to pump all the converter has to do is spin the pump gears. Technically the converter could be empty and you would still have pump pressure. Do you think maybe something happened with the boost valve install and it is dumping off all the line pressure?

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No idea. I wasn't there when he did it, but this is something he does for a living so I have all the confidence in the world in him.
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Originally Posted by GMCtrk
Installing a trans/converter should be a very precise process.

There are 3 absolutely critical steps

#1) Ensure the converter is fully seated. 1.030" from converter pads to bellhousing face on the 4l80e. This was a royal PITA to get mine fully seated, I'm guessing the billet input shaft had something to do with that. I also had the stock 4l80e and converter there so I could compare.

#2) Ensure 1/16-3/16" converter pad to flexplate spacing (2/16 to 3/16" is ideal on the 4l80). Sounds like you did this correctly. I'm also guessing you did you have converter fully seated. If it wasn't there's a good chance you wouldn't have any spacing to the converter or at the very least wouldn't need the shims.

#3) Ensure proper fluid level. Low fluid is far worse than too much. I was even advised to run mine up to 1/2 quart over full. I would recheck your fluid level and if it's low add more and see how it responds.

Mine was a PITA to fully seat also with my billet input shaft. They are machined for a tighter fit. A stock setup should stab together easily.
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Originally Posted by Circle-D
And good question on the flexplate setup.... Do you have any pics on the install? And what was the stock flexplate? 80e style or 60e dished?

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It's a 60e dished stock flexplate with your 80e converter. Exact same setup I have on my other truck that work flawlessly.
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Old Dec 29, 2013 | 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by GMCtrk
Installing a trans/converter should be a very precise process.

There are 3 absolutely critical steps

#1) Ensure the converter is fully seated. 1.030" from converter pads to bellhousing face on the 4l80e. This was a royal PITA to get mine fully seated, I'm guessing the billet input shaft had something to do with that. I also had the stock 4l80e and converter there so I could compare.

#2) Ensure 1/16-3/16" converter pad to flexplate spacing (2/16 to 3/16" is ideal on the 4l80). Sounds like you did this correctly. I'm also guessing you did you have converter fully seated. If it wasn't there's a good chance you wouldn't have any spacing to the converter or at the very least wouldn't need the shims.

#3) Ensure proper fluid level. Low fluid is far worse than too much. I was even advised to run mine up to 1/2 quart over full. I would recheck your fluid level and if it's low add more and see how it responds.
The clearance was no different than any other converter I've done. So I think I'm good on that. And I added a couple of more quarts for a total of 13+1 in the converter. No change.

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Bottom line, with 0 psi line pressure, your transmission needs to come back out.
I know. Sad face. Just trying to see if it's something I can fix, or if I should just throw in the towel and get a factory reman.
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Originally Posted by AKlowriderZ71
Bottom line, with 0 psi line pressure, your transmission needs to come back out.
Ya pretty much.
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Old Dec 29, 2013 | 09:00 PM
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Have you ensured that the filter is not clogged?
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I'm thinking you'll find a broken pump. Not much else will cause 0 psi. You don't have low pressure, you have no pressure at all.
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New filter was put in when the pan was removed.
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Old Dec 29, 2013 | 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by AKlowriderZ71
I'm thinking you'll find a broken pump. Not much else will cause 0 psi. You don't have low pressure, you have no pressure at all.
I say 0 pressure, but if you remove the line, it will dribble out. I don't have a gauge but the fluid will move....barely.
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