Talk about prochargers
Dec 26, 2013 | 10:48 AM
#31
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The P1 and D1 are identical head-units. Everything is the same, besides the impeller wheels. D1 def has a more aggressive wheel, the boost comes in harder and sooner.
Dec 26, 2013 | 12:43 PM
#32
go check out the corvette world... prochargers & vortechs sell like hotcakes for price, peak numbers, and good drag times. on the vette platform, a centri is the cheapest way into FI, yet they've been developed into almost as good a performer as a turbo setup for top-end performance
Dec 26, 2013 | 06:58 PM
#33
I think the upfront cost of a pro charger kit drives a lot of people away. The perceived notion is that a turbo kit can be setup for $2500-3000 which isn't true in the long run. People see the budget turbo build by guys like camaross and others and think hey he went 10s with an On3 turbo why can't I just slap one on and do the same. They fail to see the whole picture. The looking at pro chargers usually ends with the 8k complete basic kit think damn only 8lbs screw that I wanna go 10s or whatever other BS. Prochargers aren't as common I think mostly, because that first guy hasn't run out and killed it yet. First one into the nines just this month and first into the 10s wasn't all that long ago it seems like. Then again it seems like the industry isn't full of pro chargers anyways.
Dec 26, 2013 | 08:29 PM
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Could you please explain this in a little more detail? I can come up with quite a few scenarios in how one could build a turbo setup for ~$3k or less, with good turbos as well. Now you could also build a setup with a $4k charger as well, but it's not necessary. I haven't figured a way to get into the procharger market for under ~$6k, same goes for whipples and such. Cost to power produced is a ratio that makes sales.
Dec 26, 2013 | 09:16 PM
#35
New unit or used? Is this just the head unit and brackets? That's a stout price
Dec 26, 2013 | 11:05 PM
#36
The thing about a turbo set up is that most of the parts can be purchased separately (thus spreading out cost over time) more easily than a procharged set up.
However, I fully blame parish8 for this whole fiasco.
However, I fully blame parish8 for this whole fiasco.
Dec 27, 2013 | 07:16 AM
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The only part I bought used was the head unit. I gave $1100 shipped. I tried to wait it out and pick up a used bracket, but Paxton stopped making brackets for a corvette ( that's what accessory drive I used for my swap ) which made finding a used one almost impossible. The Novi2000 has a different bolt pattern than any other Paxton, Vortech, or Procharger blower. So I had to pay $900 for a bracket and tensioner from ECS. $100 for an oiling kit. Then I picked up a universal intercooler kit from CXRacing for about $350, and finished it off with a blowoff from RPS for $75.
Dec 27, 2013 | 07:22 AM
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To go a little further, the ECS bracket is so good, it may be worth converting truck accessories to corvette routing just to use it. Im making 656rwhp on a 6 rib belt through an auto, and there is more left in the setup.
Dec 27, 2013 | 12:59 PM
#39
Could you please explain this in a little more detail? I can come up with quite a few scenarios in how one could build a turbo setup for ~$3k or less, with good turbos as well. Now you could also build a setup with a $4k charger as well, but it's not necessary. I haven't figured a way to get into the procharger market for under ~$6k, same goes for whipples and such. Cost to power produced is a ratio that makes sales.
hot pipes $1500
Ebay Universal intercooler $350
Cxracing 76mm turbo $400
8.1 marine injectors $400
Fuel pump $100
Bov/WG $400
Tuning $300
That is just the basics and we have already broke the $3100 mark without getting into the odds and ends. This is with a Chinese turbo and other eBay crap. I agree pro chargers are expensive, but turbos aren't near as cheap as people think.
