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Old Aug 26, 2022 | 10:09 PM
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vehemently insisting on staying stock but complaining about IATs because you're pushing 15psi?!
having been down both routes, let me attest that the exhaust will cost you half, net you more power at lower temperatures, and be much less complicated.

i've got the first (and maybe only) KillerChiller for a C5 vette on my TVS2300 build. not sure if he's got a pre-fabbed GMT800 line yet, but if not - it'll require someone who knows how to weld/splice aluminum AC lines and keep them from leaking under the freon pressure. also, the chiller won't add power - it'll just temporarily limit how much you lose when the intake air gets hot (until it gets heat-soaked itself).

headers + a high-flow muffler, on the other hand, will reduce the restrictions in your setup - allowing you to flow the same (or more) air easier... which results in less heat to begin with. that lower heat threshold will help keep you from over-working your intercooler. some 1 7/8" headers into dual 3" pipes with a large-cased, straight-through muffler will still be plenty quiet & not drone.
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Old Aug 26, 2022 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Bgbldodge
Like I said, stubborn. Everyone has told you how to “get the best bang for your buck” but you won’t listen and just want to stick to what you originally planned so you wasted everyone’s time.

no not stubborn and nobody has told me about anything. I asked about a killer chiller. I’ve only ran across one thread of an install about one. I’m sure more people have them but don’t speak on it. I probably won’t either unless I’m asked about if I ever decide to pull the trigger
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Old Aug 26, 2022 | 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by _zebra
vehemently insisting on staying stock but complaining about IATs because you're pushing 15psi?!
having been down both routes, let me attest that the exhaust will cost you half, net you more power at lower temperatures, and be much less complicated.

i've got the first (and maybe only) KillerChiller for a C5 vette on my TVS2300 build. not sure if he's got a pre-fabbed GMT800 line yet, but if not - it'll require someone who knows how to weld/splice aluminum AC lines and keep them from leaking under the freon pressure. also, the chiller won't add power - it'll just temporarily limit how much you lose when the intake air gets hot (until it gets heat-soaked itself).

headers + a high-flow muffler, on the other hand, will reduce the restrictions in your setup - allowing you to flow the same (or more) air easier... which results in less heat to begin with. that lower heat threshold will help keep you from over-working your intercooler. some 1 7/8" headers into dual 3" pipes with a large-cased, straight-through muffler will still be plenty quiet & not drone.
im not complaining about iats. Anyone with a supercharger has to deal with iats at some point. I wanted some information about the killer chiller. Like I said before, I’ve only ran into about one thread about an install about one. Hopefully I can share my experiences when/if I ever get one
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Old Aug 26, 2022 | 10:49 PM
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There’s probably a reason why there’s not a lot of chatter on it.
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Old Aug 26, 2022 | 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Bgbldodge
There’s probably a reason why there’s not a lot of chatter on it.

that’s true. On the mustangs, lightning and hellcat forums, information is plentiful. Maybe because those guys are factory supercharged and half the work is already done for them. You’re definitely right about the exhaust being crucial, but for me it’s going to lead to other areas that I don’t want to mess with. I just want a stock sounding/ driving daily that I can have fun in and surprise other trucks and sports cars, even if it ain’t fast at the track. Once I get my faster times possible I’ll stop going to the track anyways. Just want a sleeper street beast
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Old Aug 27, 2022 | 04:08 AM
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Probally popular on those vehicles bc they weren't factory intercooled.
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Old Aug 27, 2022 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by TorqueBT
.... I’m not gonna just weld in a muffler and have to buy another stock catback if I ever decide to trade or sell the vehicle, I’m gonna retain my factory one.
My point was that headers were a big improvement even using the stock muffler. You would never know that I have headers by the sound. I'm sorry that I have no clue about the intercooler, I just wanted to clarify that headers work with a quiet exhaust.
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Old Aug 27, 2022 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeGyver
My point was that headers were a big improvement even using the stock muffler. You would never know that I have headers by the sound. I'm sorry that I have no clue about the intercooler, I just wanted to clarify that headers work with a quiet exhaust.

i understand and I believe it. I may even consider headers eventually if I can’t find any solace in the killer chiller
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Old Aug 27, 2022 | 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by TorqueBT
im not complaining about iats. Anyone with a supercharger has to deal with iats at some point. I wanted some information about the killer chiller. Like I said before, I’ve only ran into about one thread about an install about one. Hopefully I can share my experiences when/if I ever get one
like i said - i have a KillerChiller, and i presented an opinion gleaned from running it on an almost 700whp TVS car for the last 4yrs.

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Probally popular on those vehicles bc they weren't factory intercooled.
no, all the cars he builds them for have intercoolers. the whole premise of the system is to bring the intercooler's antifreeze to below ambient temperature by passing that coolant through a manifold with freon tubes from your a/c system - all to remove more heat from the intake air than (best-case) ambient temp antifreeze could do.

he's been building these for over 20yrs now, but it's only been in the last few that he's branched away from the blue oval crowd - getting more experience in mopar and a little bit with the LSA units. he used what he knew of the LSA setup to fabricate mine - though it was quite the learning experience for us all in getting that one working right.
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Old Aug 27, 2022 | 11:12 PM
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one downside to it is that, since it's just another method of heat transfer, it'll also become heat-soaked (based on the freon's max cooling capacity) after extended use.

the primary intended setup is for drag racing, where you get a hard pull for a few seconds followed by some recovery time. in that application, it's recommended to actually remove the original water:air brick & just run the chiller because it'll pull the temps lower by itself... however, my case is more road course style driving with not as hard of pulls but for extended time periods. we actually left the antifreeze heat exchanger on with an optional bypass valve for the short stuff so that on the extended runs, i've still got air cooling the intercooler water after the freon warms up.

overall, though, if you can reduce the amount of heat being built up in the first place (e.g. with headers & bigger mid-pipes), then you ain't gotta worry so much about the crazy cooling setups that are more complicated to install (and/or remove if you sell the truck) than a simple exhaust kit.
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