Dyno'd the Radix'd truck today, these #'s good
#61
Originally Posted by CHarris
As far as why I'm grilling ya all on this... not that anyone asked... but I don't want to see another Radix truck go down with a lean cylinder and maxed injectors. I'd like for everyone to be thinking about whether or not they have enough fuel.
#62
A 43/44lb injector will take a FI engine well past 400rwhp, be it a Radix, turbo, flux capacitor or vortex generator. You can't tell an if an injector is enough just based on boost, or w/o looking at the pressure its seeing. They're are peeps running stock injectors with over 500rwhp. They have 120psi rail pressure with two pumps and voltage boosters, but never the less they're only 24lb'rs. Lots of variables at play here.
#63
Originally Posted by CHarris
As far as why I'm grilling ya all on this... not that anyone asked... but I don't want to see another Radix truck go down with a lean cylinder and maxed injectors. I'd like for everyone to be thinking about whether or not they have enough fuel.
I have Ford 42#'ers AND a maganvolt in hand and, I just might get an inline 225lph pump just for giggles. Runnin out of fuel is bad, ask #7
#64
Originally Posted by 1SlowHoe
I have Ford 42#'ers AND a maganvolt in hand and, I just might get an inline 225lph pump just for giggles. Runnin out of fuel is bad, ask #7 
#65
Originally Posted by vanillagorilla
Your Ford 42lb'rs are actually 49.XX lb'rs at 4bar rail pressure. I'm not sure what pressure you operate at though, being flex fuel and all. I still can't believe you didn't have either a voltage booster or pump though. Thats why #7 bit it....of course I'm not one to talk. 

#66
Originally Posted by Crash Dummy
Radix flex fuel is 39 lb not 60
flex fuel stockers are 38#..why would you even change them then....i was just going by what i was told by sales up there in your office...
anyways we just changed the clips and installed my 42#'ers i had and sent back the radix ones . during tuning the fuel psi was good with the stock fuel pump..
Last edited by bud8fan; Oct 25, 2005 at 03:09 AM.
#67
Originally Posted by BlownChevy
Well Cory it works like this.....The 04 to current fuel system does not have the boost referenced FPR as the 03's did, hence the need for the Magnavolt. The Magnavolt boosts the voltage to the pump at 3500 rpm and 3psi of boost, acting like a rail mouted FPR. That being said, this combo is good for more power than a stock LQ4 will make with a s/c and cam combo. Bigger injectors only hid the real problem of fuel pressure/volume. I am running the intank pump and I am not haveing even a hint of fuel problems at 450 rwhp.
#69
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Here's the dyno sheet:
Truck and Radix install and stuff.
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Here's the dyno sheet:
#70
using dyno numbers to find where you run out of injector or see how much you can make on the supplied injectors is fun, but isn't really relevant. with numbers being different from dyno to dyno and parasitic drag being considerably different you are shooting in the dark to use that number. a 5.3L using a 3.2" pulley can't be compared to a 6.0L using a 2.8" pulley for example. just in the blower alone there is about 40hp difference in the parasitic drag of when spinning it that fast. the same goes with wheel hp. an H2 or Silverado SS for example has 23% or higher of parasitic drag and something like an SSR or stock rcsb 2wd truck can be as low as 15%. the reason all of this is important is that your number to the wheels has nothing at all to do with how much fuel you need. if between the blower and drivetrain loss's you have 130hp in parasitic loss, you still have 130hp having to be produced by the cylinders and therefore fuel. where i've found the problem on the 04' and newer is at around 57lbmin and higher of a maf reading. at around 57 or so the lean condition starts and will only get worse. now an SSR can't exactly be put in the same catagory either though. they get big power with low boost, especially with having 10.8:1 compression. less boost requires less pressure on the other side. even at the same hp/airflow level, an engine at 10psi requires the injector to have more pressure on the supply side that something of the same power running only 6psi. with the SSR, if you were to pull say 55lbs min at the maf it's not going to have as much fuel pressure requirement to keep the injector spraying at it's rated number as say a 5.3L running much more boost to make the same airflow number.





