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Old Mar 17, 2014 | 11:04 PM
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I think my next step would be a charger, mods are listed in sig, if your on mobile just let me know and i'll post them up.

I'm not sure what to get though, so I got to searching and for my goals I think a procharger would be best. my truck comes off the line pretty hard, but I really start to lose it all at 100mph+ but what are your thoughts and experiences?

the truck is definitely not a daily driver but it is not a track truck either, just a weekend / evening fun time cruiser

how much boost could I safely and reliably run with 10.9:1 comp & arp head studs on 94 octane?

I run the iridium tipped TR5IX plugs at 0.045", would I need to change that?

whats a safe budget to have? I did a little looking and it looks like a new procharger would run about $5000 and a Maggie is around $6200...or am I looking in the wrong places?

I'm fairly new to chargers, not the school book theory behind them but real world applications so there'll be plenty more questions







Magnacharger vs Procharger

Another VS thread

Procharger biased write up but still good
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Old Mar 17, 2014 | 11:19 PM
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I'd make a real quick trip to the classifieds board.

https://www.performancetrucks.net/fo...d.php?t=527611
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wouldn't the whipple be the same as a Maggie in a performance gain? Ive read monstrous torque off the line but limited top end. and wouldn't $5750 be a little high for a used kit? or no cause it has fuel injectors as well?
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Being 2wd, and wanting to keep any kind of traction, I'd lean more towards Procharger. That is IF you're stuck to wanting a supercharger only and have completely thrown out the idea of a turbo build. But back to why I'd suggest Procharger. With the pro, you dont get that instant full on torque as soon as you floor it, but its not far behind. As long as everything is set up properly and you dont have any belt slip, you will still get the throw you back in your seat power. The biggest thing youll have to worry about on the stock motor with boost is the compression you have. Almost 11:1 compression for a non built boost motor is quite a bit, and if you have e-85 available you might consider going to that instead of regular pump gas. But, if the tune is spot on and you upgrade the fuel system enough to handle what youre pushing you should be okay. Along with the ARP head studs (or bolts, bolts are fine too) id go back with a more boost friendly head gasket as well. The plugs will need to be changed, probably to a TR6, and most guys dont run an iridium plug with boost. I ran factory ZR1 plugs in my procharged truck for a while and it ran just fine, they were just too damn expensive. Just the plain TR6 copper plug will do just fine, just have to play with the gap a little to get it where it needs to be and replace them every few oil changes. You can also find a used procharger kit for waaay cheaper than $5k, and theyre usually a lot less than even a used maggie or tvs kit as well. You might also consider upping your stall speed a bit if you do go with the procharger, something in the 3400ish range would help get things moving out of the hole better.
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Originally Posted by AUTOT3K
wouldn't the whipple be the same as a Maggie in a performance gain? Ive read monstrous torque off the line but limited top end. and wouldn't $5750 be a little high for a used kit? or no cause it has fuel injectors as well?
He's got extras with it and you can always make him an offer.
ETA: Actually, that price does seem a bit high. New Era sells the base kit for the same price.

As far as performance, I think the best thread on that for the Whipple is New Era's thread. Excellent thread with tons of info on that blower.

If I still had my 2013, I would have already made an offer on that thread.

For now, I'm still about a year away from looking at FI & I hope that Whipple has a kit ready for the 2014 trucks.

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Originally Posted by zachm89
Being 2wd, and wanting to keep any kind of traction, I'd lean more towards Procharger. That is IF you're stuck to wanting a supercharger only and have completely thrown out the idea of a turbo build. But back to why I'd suggest Procharger. With the pro, you dont get that instant full on torque as soon as you floor it, but its not far behind. As long as everything is set up properly and you dont have any belt slip, you will still get the throw you back in your seat power. The biggest thing youll have to worry about on the stock motor with boost is the compression you have. Almost 11:1 compression for a non built boost motor is quite a bit, and if you have e-85 available you might consider going to that instead of regular pump gas. But, if the tune is spot on and you upgrade the fuel system enough to handle what youre pushing you should be okay. Along with the ARP head studs (or bolts, bolts are fine too) id go back with a more boost friendly head gasket as well. The plugs will need to be changed, probably to a TR6, and most guys dont run an iridium plug with boost. I ran factory ZR1 plugs in my procharged truck for a while and it ran just fine, they were just too damn expensive. Just the plain TR6 copper plug will do just fine, just have to play with the gap a little to get it where it needs to be and replace them every few oil changes. You can also find a used procharger kit for waaay cheaper than $5k, and theyre usually a lot less than even a used maggie or tvs kit as well. You might also consider upping your stall speed a bit if you do go with the procharger, something in the 3400ish range would help get things moving out of the hole better.
thanks for all the info!
I already have the arp head studs in so I'm good there.
the reason I was leaning away from a turbo build is because I didn't want to rebuild the whole truck essentially. I have deep gears, higher stall, long tubes and I thought that was a little more charger friendly.
I'd like to just bolt one on, changing plugs and minor stuff is fine but I don't want to budget for a new stall or re pull the heads I just bolted on at the current moment, and if I did get a new converter down the line I'd probly go 3600-3800
I don't have E85 available unfortunately, 94 is as good as pump gas gets here

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New Era's Whipple build thread...
https://www.performancetrucks.net/fo...d.php?t=505827
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Pro charger is the way to go if you are shooting for anything deeper than 11s. If you are simply looking to DD and have an easy Bolton setup then go whipple or Maggie.
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Originally Posted by gamble686
Pro charger is the way to go if you are shooting for anything deeper than 11s. If you are simply looking to DD and have an easy Bolton setup then go whipple or Maggie.
I'm not looking for an easy bolt on setup per say, I'm just not looking to pull heads again, and change stalls

would my factory fuel pump keep up? being a flex fuel truck or would I want to upgrade that as well?
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Depends on how far you push it. If you are thinking low boost the stock pump can take on it. If you plan for over 10lbs then I would say no.
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