FORCED INDUCTION Turbos | Superchargers | Intercoolers | H2O/Meth Injection
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

br7efs idle like crap

Old Oct 26, 2013 | 10:07 PM
  #21  
TURBHOE's Avatar
12 Second Truck Club
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 6,318
Likes: 2
From: Jacksonville FL.
Default

I'm not on main land Japan. Okinawa the little island south of Main land. I wish I could find a you pull it around here though.
Reply
Old Oct 27, 2013 | 07:49 AM
  #22  
Choda's Avatar
TECH Addict
10 Year Member
Liked
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 2,781
Likes: 62
From: Buffalo NY
Default

I have stock coils too but w so many trucks running strong I find it hard to believe it's the problem. We can check the ohm readings of the coils right? Maybe find a weak coil?

I haven't and won't have a chance to mess w mine for a bit but I'll make sure to post up results.

I have 80k on mine.
Reply
Old Oct 27, 2013 | 08:28 AM
  #23  
leftcoast32's Avatar
FormerVendor
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 1,940
Likes: 0
Default

The colder the plug is the smaller the gap needs to be to maintain a smooth idle. We run a 7 series on the LSX and have the gap set at .028 and they idle as good if not better then a TR6 would. Try .028 and go down to maybe .026 if you have weak coils.
Reply
Old Oct 27, 2013 | 07:04 PM
  #24  
kelsey_canard's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Resident
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 959
Likes: 1
From: Arkansas
Default

Well, I gapped the plugs down to .028 and the problem still persists. Plugs looked pretty normal.
Reply
Old Oct 27, 2013 | 07:58 PM
  #25  
kelsey_canard's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Resident
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 959
Likes: 1
From: Arkansas
Default

Just messed with the tuning a little. Ran an idle config, and it showed the raf desiring about 3x more airflow than the stock tune. I had previously used the stock raf table, because Im runing the stock cam. Anyways, I changed that and it helped a small amount. Still had a pretty bad miss at idle.

Changed the commanded idle around with the bidirectional controls in the scanner. Adding timing seemed to make it worse, and subtracting timing helped. At 8* the misfiring it damn near gone. At 30* it surges so bad it will die. Any input on this?

Took a video on my phone of the timing affecting the misfiring. I can upload it if anyone wants to see it.
Reply
Old Oct 27, 2013 | 08:31 PM
  #26  
AKlowriderZ71's Avatar
11 Second Hall Moniter
iTrader: (22)
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 11,651
Likes: 10
From: Wyoming
Default

Do you have a vacuum leak somewhere?
Reply
Old Oct 28, 2013 | 12:15 AM
  #27  
TURBHOE's Avatar
12 Second Truck Club
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 6,318
Likes: 2
From: Jacksonville FL.
Default

Try moving the timming around until you get peak vacuum at idle. You shouldn't really have to do this with stock cam though. A vacuum leak should make it look like you need less air in the raf table. A partial misfire may make it look rich and make it think it need more air or less fuel. A total misfire will look lean because no fuel is burning. That's what I have seen over the years myself anyway.
Reply
Old Oct 28, 2013 | 11:15 AM
  #28  
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (16)
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 1,193
Likes: 0
From: Rochester, NY
Default

I've run BR7EF on everything I've tuned and have never had an issue with E85 or gasoline. I've ran them all the way down to 0.020" without issue.
Reply
Old Oct 28, 2013 | 07:26 PM
  #29  
kelsey_canard's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Resident
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 959
Likes: 1
From: Arkansas
Default

Originally Posted by TURBHOE
Try moving the timming around until you get peak vacuum at idle. You shouldn't really have to do this with stock cam though. A vacuum leak should make it look like you need less air in the raf table. A partial misfire may make it look rich and make it think it need more air or less fuel. A total misfire will look lean because no fuel is burning. That's what I have seen over the years myself anyway.
Seems like the more timing I added the more vacuum it pulled. 41kpa and about 18 in/hg. IIRC. But the more timing i added, the worse it surges. I find it very wierd with the raf table requiring more air. Maybe it was because I got rid of the pcv system. Does the pcv act as a controlled leak?

Did an ohm test on the wires today. The highest resistance was ~980ohms. All were really close. I bent the crap out of the wires while i was testing them too.

Heres a youtube video of how the timing affects it.

VID_20131027_194650_605.mp4 - YouTube

I will also attach the current tune if anyone cares to check it out. Maybe I fouled the plugs during some tuning. I did mess with the boost some with them in, and im sure I ran it rich as hell.
Reply
Old Oct 28, 2013 | 07:29 PM
  #30  
GMCtrk's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (27)
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 12,275
Likes: 19
From: Dallas
Default

Haven't you said this motor was burning a lot of oil? Is the motor hurt?
Reply

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:04 AM.