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Old 11-10-2007, 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by moregrip
is this what we use to hekp keep idle AFR stoich? if so, it seems more dead time is desireable?
Not directly. Yes, this table is key to getting the injectors to open the right amount to idle correctly, but it's not the only factor, and shouldn't be tuned like a VE table. The dead time of an injector is a function of the injectors design, the PCM has no control over it. This is just how the PCM handles that mechanical dead time.

Think of a fluorescent light bulb. You flick the switch, there is a period of dead time and then the light comes on. If you had that light on a timer and needed it to come on at an exact time, you'd have to know how long it will take from the point that the switch is flicked until the light comes on and flip the switch early. Same thing with the injectors...
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Originally Posted by dc_justin
Not directly. Yes, this table is key to getting the injectors to open the right amount to idle correctly, but it's not the only factor, and shouldn't be tuned like a VE table. The dead time of an injector is a function of the injectors design, the PCM has no control over it. This is just how the PCM handles that mechanical dead time.

Think of a fluorescent light bulb. You flick the switch, there is a period of dead time and then the light comes on. If you had that light on a timer and needed it to come on at an exact time, you'd have to know how long it will take from the point that the switch is flicked until the light comes on and flip the switch early. Same thing with the injectors...
the more accuratly we time the light coming on to flicking the switch the better off we are?

What I'm trying to do is get a list of tables I'll need to modify to run the 60lb Mototrons for a break-in period.

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also where can I find the RAF table/s?
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Originally Posted by moregrip
also where can I find the RAF table/s?
BASE RUNNING AIRFLOW

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thanks Ky, I thought that's what it was but I didn't want to assume.

what am I concerned about in this table?
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Originally Posted by moregrip
thanks Ky, I thought that's what it was but I didn't want to assume.

what am I concerned about in this table?
This table defines how much airflow is needed at idle to maintain your desired idle RPM. PCM has idle trims that it will use to add or subtract from this value to achieve idle.
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Looks like dc_justin and Kysilverado just hit the nail on the head for your questions. Justin, thats a good expanation concerning the light I was trying to think how to explain it.

Moregrip- If your offset values and Min pulse are out of wack then changes to you VE table at idle will have little to no effect. Are you runing SD or MAf I dont remember?
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this guy right here:

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Heres what I have for tables I need to modify so far (these are my actual tables btw):







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Originally Posted by dc_justin
This table defines how much airflow is needed at idle to maintain your desired idle RPM. PCM has idle trims that it will use to add or subtract from this value to achieve idle.
that's easy enough for me to understand I'm definitely on the KISS format


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