Knock knock.... who's there? KR
#71
If anything comes of this, it's gonna be me learning how to read EFI stuff. LOL
Your scan showing the afr, that is commanded not actual right? How do you get actual afr in to the graph scan? I see it in the data tab, just going back and forth sucks.
The last scan with hardly any knock...
Frame 217
55%TPS 48MPH 2700RPM 12.63real&12.05commandedAFR 178*IAT 11*Advance 103MAP 25LBSMAF & 9158Hrtz
Frame 604
72%TPS 31MPH 2400RPM 12.09real&12.5commandedAFR 169*IAT 9.5*Advance 103MAP 29LBSMAF & 9213Hrtz
Frame 1107
59%TPS 38MPH 2655RPM 11.70real&12.05commandedAFR 185*IAT 8*Advance 103MAP 26LBSMAF & 9211Hrtz
I only state these as so we all can see with out downloading the file the common occurence in kr in the last file. High IAT's certainly robbing some power from your spark tables, I guess as they should.
Ahhh, the high load low rpm cells. Interested in what this will look like once the 110 is gone. Notice the dive in spark just after the kr goes away in frame 604? TM? Your knock is in the same ve map/rpm region and the same maf lb/hertz spots.
I bet your sensors in combination are just turned up to high so your filter got most us this stuff, but the originating kr is hidden inside the low rpm/high map areas still. He is on 110 octane fuel right now, those .8 kr's if real, will turn into 2's and 3's once he is back on pump gas.
Your scan showing the afr, that is commanded not actual right? How do you get actual afr in to the graph scan? I see it in the data tab, just going back and forth sucks.
The last scan with hardly any knock...
Frame 217
55%TPS 48MPH 2700RPM 12.63real&12.05commandedAFR 178*IAT 11*Advance 103MAP 25LBSMAF & 9158Hrtz
Frame 604
72%TPS 31MPH 2400RPM 12.09real&12.5commandedAFR 169*IAT 9.5*Advance 103MAP 29LBSMAF & 9213Hrtz
Frame 1107
59%TPS 38MPH 2655RPM 11.70real&12.05commandedAFR 185*IAT 8*Advance 103MAP 26LBSMAF & 9211Hrtz
I only state these as so we all can see with out downloading the file the common occurence in kr in the last file. High IAT's certainly robbing some power from your spark tables, I guess as they should.
Ahhh, the high load low rpm cells. Interested in what this will look like once the 110 is gone. Notice the dive in spark just after the kr goes away in frame 604? TM? Your knock is in the same ve map/rpm region and the same maf lb/hertz spots.
I bet your sensors in combination are just turned up to high so your filter got most us this stuff, but the originating kr is hidden inside the low rpm/high map areas still. He is on 110 octane fuel right now, those .8 kr's if real, will turn into 2's and 3's once he is back on pump gas.
#72
Originally Posted by dewmanshu
If anything comes of this, it's gonna be me learning how to read EFI stuff. LOL
Your scan showing the afr, that is commanded not actual right? How do you get actual afr in to the graph scan? I see it in the data tab, just going back and forth sucks.
Your scan showing the afr, that is commanded not actual right? How do you get actual afr in to the graph scan? I see it in the data tab, just going back and forth sucks.
#73
Originally Posted by dewmanshu
If anything comes of this, it's gonna be me learning how to read EFI stuff. LOL
Your scan showing the afr, that is commanded not actual right? How do you get actual afr in to the graph scan? I see it in the data tab, just going back and forth sucks.
Your scan showing the afr, that is commanded not actual right? How do you get actual afr in to the graph scan? I see it in the data tab, just going back and forth sucks.
Originally Posted by dewmanshu
I only state these as so we all can see with out downloading the file the common occurence in kr in the last file. High IAT's certainly robbing some power from your spark tables, I guess as they should.
Ahhh, the high load low rpm cells. Interested in what this will look like once the 110 is gone. Notice the dive in spark just after the kr goes away in frame 604? TM? Your knock is in the same ve map/rpm region and the same maf lb/hertz spots.
Ahhh, the high load low rpm cells. Interested in what this will look like once the 110 is gone. Notice the dive in spark just after the kr goes away in frame 604? TM? Your knock is in the same ve map/rpm region and the same maf lb/hertz spots.
. So what is the best way to start addressing my problem areas? As you mentioned they seem to be in pretty much the same place.....guess i need to ramp up the VE table in those areas? Not sure how to adjust the MAF settings yet. I think that has got to be TM ion that one spot there DEW.
Originally Posted by dewmanshu
I bet your sensors in combination are just turned up to high so your filter got most us this stuff, but the originating kr is hidden inside the low rpm/high map areas still.
#74
My opinion, leave it alone for now. Drive the 110 out of it. Always scanning, making sure you don't get some crazy out of sequence kr that you aren't expecting.
What I meant was what justin said...your filter nailed most of it. Now the real stuff can handled once the 110 is gone.
What I meant was what justin said...your filter nailed most of it. Now the real stuff can handled once the 110 is gone.
#75
Originally Posted by dewmanshu
My opinion, leave it alone for now. Drive the 110 out of it. Always scanning, making sure you don't get some crazy out of sequence kr that you aren't expecting.
What I meant was what justin said...your filter nailed most of it. Now the real stuff can handled once the 110 is gone.
What I meant was what justin said...your filter nailed most of it. Now the real stuff can handled once the 110 is gone.

. I will see i guess.
#76
Originally Posted by Whippled 496
yes, i see that, and i am worried too about what the KR will look like once i get the 93 back in there. Only one way to find out i guess. Sure as hell aint puttin 110 in there all the time....or am I...
. So what is the best way to start addressing my problem areas? As you mentioned they seem to be in pretty much the same place.....guess i need to ramp up the VE table in those areas? Not sure how to adjust the MAF settings yet. I think that has got to be TM ion that one spot there DEW.
. So what is the best way to start addressing my problem areas? As you mentioned they seem to be in pretty much the same place.....guess i need to ramp up the VE table in those areas? Not sure how to adjust the MAF settings yet. I think that has got to be TM ion that one spot there DEW.
#78
Originally Posted by dewmanshu
blah, go anyway, just log your run. Back off if it's bad. 

#79
Originally Posted by dc_justin
Your VE and MAF calibration are spot on (as apparent by your BEN factors shown in a few of your logs). We've shown that your knock is almost entirely reduced with that IAT spark table you have in there. Start playing with the values in there... pull out a tad more timing and it should be all gone.
#80
Originally Posted by dewmanshu
yeh last night looking at his logs of actual versus commanded, he was damn close. A little rich even. Just in my opinion from the scans he isn't going into the commanded fast enough for such a heavy vehicle. Just my 2cents. 8* of spark at 178* of IAT is pretty safe sounding. Couldn't imagine taking more. LOL But I also can't imagine 180* IAT helping much either.
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Last edited by Whippled 496; Sep 28, 2006 at 12:34 PM.





