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Old May 9, 2009 | 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by kbracing96
Yes, I black box log with mine all the time. It will show all the PID's you are logging on the LCD, or just the AFR, ect. It's really nice.

They are currently private beta testing the newest V8 BBLogging software which is going really well and as soon as its done, they will be beta testing the BBflashing and reading
sounds interesting. what is bblogging software? pm me if youd like so its not filling up the ops thread.
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Old May 10, 2009 | 12:39 PM
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Please post it. I want to hear about it too.
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Old May 10, 2009 | 01:59 PM
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HPT is better because I said so....


LOL, I've told you my opinion Robert. If I had to do it over again I'd probably have gotten EFI. But HPT has served me well just the same...
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Old May 10, 2009 | 04:29 PM
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also if yer not gonna be tuning yourself full time, see what yer tuner is more familiar with, like in my case .mine uses HPT so im going with HPT, also like that its alot cheaper, and comes with more VIN lic's

Tho.. price isnt a huge issue, if my tuner knew how to use EFI live or if i knew what the hell i was doing, id prob go with it.

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Old May 10, 2009 | 04:39 PM
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Do you want the real story? from my point of view anyway.........

EFILive, Upside..

Lots of support from other users and maker. Lots of tunning options in custom operating sytems, nitrous control, 2 bar, etc.....

The down side.....
tables look older, like a old version of windows. No Boost enrichment map based table, meaning if you run a 2 bar and want to spray meth, there is no "good" way to tune for it. you have to adjust for the meth in the v.e or any of the other RPM based adders

HPTuners, Upside....
Lots of support from users and builders, newwer looking windows, 2 bar operating system adds a map based fuel table to aid in tunning meth.

The down side...
Only 2 bar offered as a custom operating sytem.

so imo, if you are running FI you want HPTuners, Nitrous you want EFI, anything else is a toss up, they are both great and very compairable...
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Old May 10, 2009 | 05:13 PM
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good comparison Dusty!
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Old May 10, 2009 | 06:10 PM
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Hey Robert i have an idea... Just go get Ben's HPT he sure aint using it right now. Problem solved and its free.
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Old May 11, 2009 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by mcfarlnd
sounds interesting. what is bblogging software? pm me if youd like so its not filling up the ops thread.
It's Black Box Logging. You use just the cable and hand held box to create a data log and can view the info live on the hand helds LCD, then after you've created the log file you then take the hand held and down load the log file into your PC and can review the entire log and make changes to the tune. Really cool

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Old May 11, 2009 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Wilde Racing
Do you want the real story? from my point of view anyway.........

EFILive, Upside..

Lots of support from other users and maker. Lots of tunning options in custom operating sytems, nitrous control, 2 bar, etc.....

The down side.....
tables look older, like a old version of windows. No Boost enrichment map based table, meaning if you run a 2 bar and want to spray meth, there is no "good" way to tune for it. you have to adjust for the meth in the v.e or any of the other RPM based adders

HPTuners, Upside....
Lots of support from users and builders, newwer looking windows, 2 bar operating system adds a map based fuel table to aid in tunning meth.

The down side...
Only 2 bar offered as a custom operating sytem.

so imo, if you are running FI you want HPTuners, Nitrous you want EFI, anything else is a toss up, they are both great and very compairable...
The only two things that are my biggest gripes with HPT is the no free COS's and can't help people doing there own tuning via email with there tune unless you already have a year license for that PCM, or spend the credits to license to there tune file.
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Old May 11, 2009 | 12:27 PM
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can my black box (no lcd) do logging without my laptop present?
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