Efi live or hp tuners?
01-31-2011, 12:36 PM
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Why dont you ask the guys on here what kind of support they get from HPT when they request access for tables that EFI has had for a long time. The transient tables come to mind, EFI seems to be much more responsive to user request. Not to mention yes its a little more expensive than HPT but it can do a lot more and doesnt require to spend a million credits to run a COS. The actual software itself isnt really any different, other than EFI tends to give you more tables and the values on the x and y axis are transposed. Everything HPT can do so can EFI and EFI has all the main controllers supported so youd be hard pressed to find something to tune that isnt supported by EFI. The support on EFIs site is great too. The only bad thing about EFI is that it isnt used by as many people but I believe in recent years that table has started to tilt in EFIs favor. Wheatley and Blackbear use EFI so they could help you tune via email with it.
fof works for HPT so dont let his biased opinion skew your decision.
fof works for HPT so dont let his biased opinion skew your decision.
01-31-2011, 02:05 PM
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Why dont you ask the guys on here what kind of support they get from HPT when they request access for tables that EFI has had for a long time. The transient tables come to mind, EFI seems to be much more responsive to user request. Not to mention yes its a little more expensive than HPT but it can do a lot more and doesnt require to spend a million credits to run a COS. The actual software itself isnt really any different, other than EFI tends to give you more tables and the values on the x and y axis are transposed. Everything HPT can do so can EFI and EFI has all the main controllers supported so youd be hard pressed to find something to tune that isnt supported by EFI. The support on EFIs site is great too. The only bad thing about EFI is that it isnt used by as many people but I believe in recent years that table has started to tilt in EFIs favor. Wheatley and Blackbear use EFI so they could help you tune via email with it.
fof works for HPT so dont let his biased opinion skew your decision.
fof works for HPT so dont let his biased opinion skew your decision.
Not knocking on EFI by any means, it's a very capable and competitive (competition is good
) system but HPT's support system is just as good. I sent in a request for additional tables which was fulfilled by HPT support. To each his own.
01-31-2011, 02:15 PM
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EFILive, been there done that with both, EFI has 10000 times better setup for overall useage and Custom operating systems. As far as the visuals look for the tables and graphs, EFI is like xbox360 and HPT is like nintendo 64 imo,
I think efilive is layed out better and easier to use. And with EFI you dont have to email anyone to get a free download, go to efi's site, download the full software for free and try it yourself.
As for supported vehicles, HP may have support for different brands, but on the occasions that I was working with a controller efi didn't have a .cal for, I emailed the file out of the controller to ross and he hooked me up with a .cal to get me going. Great support and product.
Ford - 2010 Generic Australia -- File failed to load? 1024K HAFFA
Ford - 2008 Generic Australia -- File failed to load? 1024K HACD9
GM - 2002 Chevy S10 L4 I4_512K 12223044
GM - 2002 Grand Am V6 V6_single_512K 12221348
GM - 2002 Pontiac Grand Am V6 V6_single_512K 12218171
GM - 1997 Chevy V6 V6_single_512K 9355440
GM - 1997 Buick Riviera V6 V6_single_512K 16253031
GM - 2000 Buick Century V6 V6_single_512K 12203659
GM - 2001 Pontiac Grand Am V6 V6_single_512K 12211256
GM - 2001 Pontiac Aztec V6 V6_single_512K 12587904
Ford - 2009 F-Series V8 2048K TENF1
GM - 2000 Saturn L Series L4 I4_512K 9384479
GM - 2003 Saturn L - Series (L4) I4_512K 9384593
GM - 1997 Chevy Cavalier L4 I4_512K 16254731
Ford - 2006 Ford Mustang V6 1024K FBCE0
GM - 2002 Oldsmobile Alero L4 I4_512K 12218881
GM - 1998 Chevy S10 Pickup L4 I4_512K 16267102
GM - 2009 Chevy Silverado V6 E37 12628960
Ford - 2010 Mustang V8 1024K FPBX1
Ford - 2006 Mustang V6 1024K FBCE2
We are constantly working, constantly adding tables & new operating system support.
Thanks,
Bill
01-31-2011, 02:59 PM
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We support nearly 2000 operating systems as it sits so to give you a blanket quote is impossible.
01-31-2011, 03:07 PM
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I own EFI Live and am trying to learn to tune on my own and I am finding that there is much more beginner and tutorial info online for HP Tuners than for EFI Live. Master EFI Tuner is a manual that got great reviews and is based on HP Tuners. They are working on a copy for EFI Live, but that has been supposed to happen for awhile now. Most of the concepts are the same, but when the specific tables are listed for another software it makes it a little more complicated for beginners. Just my .02
01-31-2011, 03:14 PM
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Coming from somebody who has both I prefer HPT. Either will do just about whatever you need to get done with each package having minor upsides/downsides but the interface and licensing scheme wins out in the end for me with HPT. Anybody who says that one is 1000 times better than the other is obviously heavily biased.
01-31-2011, 03:17 PM
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We added transient fueling tables to several of the 2005+ operating systems last year at the request of several of our customers including trever1t and have continually added new tables over the years at our customer requests many of which efilive still to this day does not have.
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