Whats wrong with this?
Jun 25, 2008 | 06:11 PM
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Whats wrong with this?
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Saw this over on tech.
You will die if you betray the country but will live if you rape our kids....
Saw this over on tech.
You will die if you betray the country but will live if you rape our kids....
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Jun 26, 2008 | 05:26 PM
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Its been proven time and again that the death penalty is not a effective deterrent to murder its unlikely it would do any better for child rape. People are going to do evil things regardless of the punishment, the best we can do is try and prevent these crimes before they happen.
Not to mention is more cost effective to imprison people than to execute them.
Not to mention is more cost effective to imprison people than to execute them.
Jun 26, 2008 | 05:56 PM
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Its been proven time and again that the death penalty is not a effective deterrent to murder its unlikely it would do any better for child rape. People are going to do evil things regardless of the punishment, the best we can do is try and prevent these crimes before they happen.
Not to mention is more cost effective to imprison people than to execute them.
Not to mention is more cost effective to imprison people than to execute them.
I would crowbar someone that raped a child in the neck for 10 bucks
Jun 26, 2008 | 07:03 PM
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Its been proven time and again that the death penalty is not a effective deterrent to murder its unlikely it would do any better for child rape. People are going to do evil things regardless of the punishment, the best we can do is try and prevent these crimes before they happen.
Not to mention is more cost effective to imprison people than to execute them.
Not to mention is more cost effective to imprison people than to execute them.
You know the best way to prevent a convicted child rapist from striking again once he is released from prison due to loop holes etc?
The best way is by injection IMO!
Do some research on the topic.
Look at the percentages... Look how many commit the crime again..
Look how light the sentences are on "first offense" child rapist.
How is spending approximately 15 -19K annually on a prison inmate more cost effective than giving them a lethal injection?
Think about feeding the inmate each day, the medical expenses incurred for 10-15 years or for the life of the sentence.
The Prisions are over crowded now... I say do away with sick *** pedophiles all together.
Jun 26, 2008 | 07:27 PM
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I am sure this topic will more than likely get out of hand...but I'll give my thoughts.
1996 my best friend put a 357 to his temple. It was an ever life altering event for me. To make the long next 12 yrs real short, I have come to the conclusion that mankind will fail the majority of the time when trying to "fix, repair, alter, or deter" such heinous crimes. What's my friend have to do with it? He had an illness that most of us will never understand. He was in place I could not, still can't relate to. A fuggin child molester, child rapist, etc are sick and demented people. I am not saying give them a cell with carpet and a TV, just saying we can't see thru their eyes because it so damn wrong thru our eyes. Sit down, I am gonna be a lone soldier here, as a society I don't think we should ever go past an eye for an eye. He didn't murder, so he gets the luxury of not being murdered. All in the same breath, if it was my child...his case would of NEVER made it to the supreme court. I would of killed him, Jack Ruby style.
My heart wants to say kill him, but my rational sense of societal structure says not to.
I am for the death penalty, I just don't think any form of punishment will deter whatever illness that fuggin guy has. More importantly deter any future demented fuggers. His death on a society level will do no good for the little kid, their family, friends, or anybody in long term and IMHO will not deter future heinous crimes. Quiet frankly, he needs to be making money somehow to support the million hours of therapy that poor child will need to go thru now.
I hear ya Derek, I agree the punishment still doesn't fit the crime in most cases, but I say put shock collars on all of them and put their asses to fuggin work, not the kind that you get paid for either. Kill them when they try to run away.
I say cut prisoners rights in half (which will cut costs) and spend more money on victims rights and recovery.
Rather any of us want to admit it or not, the death penalty deters the good criminal. The same way that a locked car door deters a nice thief.
1996 my best friend put a 357 to his temple. It was an ever life altering event for me. To make the long next 12 yrs real short, I have come to the conclusion that mankind will fail the majority of the time when trying to "fix, repair, alter, or deter" such heinous crimes. What's my friend have to do with it? He had an illness that most of us will never understand. He was in place I could not, still can't relate to. A fuggin child molester, child rapist, etc are sick and demented people. I am not saying give them a cell with carpet and a TV, just saying we can't see thru their eyes because it so damn wrong thru our eyes. Sit down, I am gonna be a lone soldier here, as a society I don't think we should ever go past an eye for an eye. He didn't murder, so he gets the luxury of not being murdered. All in the same breath, if it was my child...his case would of NEVER made it to the supreme court. I would of killed him, Jack Ruby style.
My heart wants to say kill him, but my rational sense of societal structure says not to.
I am for the death penalty, I just don't think any form of punishment will deter whatever illness that fuggin guy has. More importantly deter any future demented fuggers. His death on a society level will do no good for the little kid, their family, friends, or anybody in long term and IMHO will not deter future heinous crimes. Quiet frankly, he needs to be making money somehow to support the million hours of therapy that poor child will need to go thru now.
I hear ya Derek, I agree the punishment still doesn't fit the crime in most cases, but I say put shock collars on all of them and put their asses to fuggin work, not the kind that you get paid for either. Kill them when they try to run away.
I say cut prisoners rights in half (which will cut costs) and spend more money on victims rights and recovery.
Rather any of us want to admit it or not, the death penalty deters the good criminal. The same way that a locked car door deters a nice thief.
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Jun 26, 2008 | 10:19 PM
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Lets be honest here while we would all like to do this it is something that will never be able to happen.
People who are child molesters and rapists are programmed incorrectly I feel they should be studied long term and locked up for life to hopefully help us better understand what makes these people tick and maybe make it easier to spot them in the future.
The reason prisons are overcrowded is the war on drugs. The majority of people in prison are in jail for drug charges not violent crimes. If we stopped imprisioning people for usage and only for dealing we wouldn't have nearly the overcrowding problems we have now.
I don't know where you get your info that its cheaper to kill inmates than store them but there are numerous articles in the news that support it is cheaper to house them. Example below:
On March 27, 2008, the ACLU of Northern California released a report titled "The Hidden Death Tax" detailing the high cost of California’s death penalty.
People who are child molesters and rapists are programmed incorrectly I feel they should be studied long term and locked up for life to hopefully help us better understand what makes these people tick and maybe make it easier to spot them in the future.
is spending approximately 15 -19K annually on a prison inmate more cost effective than giving them a lethal injection?
Think about feeding the inmate each day, the medical expenses incurred for 10-15 years or for the life of the sentence.
The Prisions are over crowded now... I say do away with sick *** pedophiles all together.
Think about feeding the inmate each day, the medical expenses incurred for 10-15 years or for the life of the sentence.
The Prisions are over crowded now... I say do away with sick *** pedophiles all together.
I don't know where you get your info that its cheaper to kill inmates than store them but there are numerous articles in the news that support it is cheaper to house them. Example below:
On March 27, 2008, the ACLU of Northern California released a report titled "The Hidden Death Tax" detailing the high cost of California’s death penalty.
In "The Hidden Death Tax", the ACLU-NC reveals for the first time some of the hidden costs of California’s death penalty, based on records of actual trial expenses and state budgets.
The report reveals that:
The report reveals that:
- California taxpayers pay at least $117 million each year post-trial seeking execution of the people currently on death row;
- Executing all of the people currently on death row, or waiting for them to die there of other causes, will cost California an estimated $4 billion more than if they had been sentenced to die in prison of disease, injury, or old age;
- California death penalty trials have cost as much as $10.9 million.
