Ghost storys....... Dont be scared :)
07-03-2009, 01:03 AM
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While I agree with a lot of what is said, and the politics/religion thing is a fine line on here, dont personally attack anyone or get a shitty tone towards someone. Keep it respectful and factual, I enjoy a good debate. This isnt directed towards anyone in this thread I just want it to stay open as long as possible, variety is the spice of life. 
07-03-2009, 02:22 AM
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WOW wtf did I start hahaha...
Ok here is one for you brainiacs, cause I know the dumb people wont get this...
There is no such thing as right and wrong in the universe, only what IS... we give meaning and value to ****... things happen, we as humans give value to these happenings, based on our feelings.
Landmark 101.
Ok here is one for you brainiacs, cause I know the dumb people wont get this...
There is no such thing as right and wrong in the universe, only what IS... we give meaning and value to ****... things happen, we as humans give value to these happenings, based on our feelings.
Landmark 101.
07-03-2009, 02:45 AM
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I can agree with that. Different people have different values towards different things. Some cultures sacrifice animals and see it as a good thing and a blessing, others see it as murder. The ancient Aztec used to sacrifice humans; it had a good value. Modern values would categorize it as murder.
Back in the times of the crusades we murdered in the name of the church, because an area of land had value. 10,000 years ago that exact piece of land wasn't worth a nickle.
Back in the times of the crusades we murdered in the name of the church, because an area of land had value. 10,000 years ago that exact piece of land wasn't worth a nickle.
07-03-2009, 04:28 AM
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i call myself agnostic. i dont beleave in god or the devil, but if someone could prove me wrong i would not ignore it. thats the difference i see with the religious "nutjobs." dont get me wrong, my wife is babtist and i will go with her on easter, and christmas. usually in the back of my mind im rolling my eyes at the preachers and all of the random halaluahs. but i go and do not have a problem with others beleaving what they want...but they seem to have a problem with beleaving what I want. pushy ************* hahahah.
i ask for proof...they point at a book...a book that has been translated/interpreted 100x over. kings changed the bible to be allowed to divorce, and people still follow the altered version. i casually mentioned evolution around my mother n law in a topic not even dealing with religion. immediatly she got defensive and started pointing out **** in her fictional book. **** me!
i beleave in science, and i believe in good ethics. i figure if i live by good ethics (dont murder, rape, steal blah blah) when i die, IF i do show up at the white gates and meet the man, ill be in good standings only because i lived by good ethics.
just re-read my babblings...ins 4:30 am and definately time to go to sleep
07-03-2009, 08:46 AM
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Seriously? It's a known fact that many passages are lost in translation from different versions of the bible. Contrary to what some morons believe(that's not intended for you*no sarcasm*), the bible wasn't written in English. It is a collective bunch of stories written in Hebrew and almost all of them do not translate literally to English or any other language for that matter.
Don't agree with that statement(even though it is fact)? How about all the different religions? When Muslims pray to Allah, you realize they're essentially praying to the same god?
How about Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, etc? All of them are different versions of Christianity that have different translations of the bible. How come some people recognize Jesus as the son of god and others don't? Jesus was Jewish, why aren't we all?
Don't agree with that statement(even though it is fact)? How about all the different religions? When Muslims pray to Allah, you realize they're essentially praying to the same god?
How about Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, etc? All of them are different versions of Christianity that have different translations of the bible. How come some people recognize Jesus as the son of god and others don't? Jesus was Jewish, why aren't we all?
Why is the NEW testament not the same as the Old testament? Why does one have more information than the other? Why do other countries have different versions of the same over all event?
It gets rewritten and then taught in different churches based on the preachers "Interpretation" of what is being said.
There's a guy on youtube that preaches to children about how god put dinosaur fossils on earth to test our faith. I'm not to thrilled with a prankster god that goes around playing tricks on his followers like it's a college frat party. Things get twisted around and preached to make those people feel comfortable. If you go around preaching a vengeful god that doesn't take **** from anyone are you going to get any followers? no. Your going to change it cuz you don't like that. and that happens a lot.
If there is a GOD he's likely not like whats in the book, Maybe the reason there are so many variations of god is because there is more than one?
I'm not dismissing the idea of god. I'm dismissing the current depiction of god and believe that the entire thing is completely out of context from where it started.
As far as dreams. I've had some serious cases of deja vu as you described. Always a very creapy feeling on how detailed it is. And not on something you are striving for, something completely unexpected.
It gets rewritten and then taught in different churches based on the preachers "Interpretation" of what is being said.
There's a guy on youtube that preaches to children about how god put dinosaur fossils on earth to test our faith. I'm not to thrilled with a prankster god that goes around playing tricks on his followers like it's a college frat party. Things get twisted around and preached to make those people feel comfortable. If you go around preaching a vengeful god that doesn't take **** from anyone are you going to get any followers? no. Your going to change it cuz you don't like that. and that happens a lot.
If there is a GOD he's likely not like whats in the book, Maybe the reason there are so many variations of god is because there is more than one?
I'm not dismissing the idea of god. I'm dismissing the current depiction of god and believe that the entire thing is completely out of context from where it started.
As far as dreams. I've had some serious cases of deja vu as you described. Always a very creapy feeling on how detailed it is. And not on something you are striving for, something completely unexpected.
But dreams and deja vu I completly relate to you, I had alot of creepy and random stuff happen. And yes Im happy that we can all try and support our own points with out this getting into a pissing match!
07-03-2009, 09:36 AM
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The "old testament" is a book detailing the accounts of the Jews, the first popular religion to believe in "one god".
The new testament details the life and tribulations of Jesus Christ, who was born a Jew but by his life and words started the "Christian" religion.
If you were to read the old testament, which by the way is the same book used by the Muslims, Jews and Christians, you will find that at one time in history all the people of the world spoke the same language but due to greed and a desire to become "god like" were cast upon the earth and scattered like the wind.
As far as war? Come on, it is MAN that started war, not the religion. It was motivation of money and power not god's words that made war during the crusades.
The new testament details the life and tribulations of Jesus Christ, who was born a Jew but by his life and words started the "Christian" religion.
If you were to read the old testament, which by the way is the same book used by the Muslims, Jews and Christians, you will find that at one time in history all the people of the world spoke the same language but due to greed and a desire to become "god like" were cast upon the earth and scattered like the wind.
As far as war? Come on, it is MAN that started war, not the religion. It was motivation of money and power not god's words that made war during the crusades.
07-03-2009, 12:44 PM
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reeligion is based soley on Faith and nothing else IMO....The bible is left up to interpretation..if it was black and white we wouldnt have all the different religions...we would just go to a church of christians and be known only as christians and not baptists,methodists, catholics,etc..
