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Old Mar 15, 2012 | 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Garage_Man
Yea I think I might go with a 10 inch setup too. The less space in back the better. I really never thought about the fact that its a shallow sub box so now I have to find some of them around the right wattage. As far as the infinities I like the brighter sound. I don't like it to sound dead. I don't know quite what to do, I am looking around at possible setups. I will report back here with everything I find with questions and such.
The infinitys did sound great and if you like the highs to be a little brighter. They are going to be right up your alley! Good quality especially for the price! As far as 10" subs go have you looked into JL Audio at all? They have some entry level price point subs that would work great for your application. For instance the JL Audio 10w0v3's are great at a little over $100 dollars each. Their reviews have been great and they have won some awards for sound quality with their lowest priced equiptment before.

As far as amplification I TOTALLY understand the point of having a left and right chanel sub. Im running that exact setup in my home audio system. It really separates your lower notes of drums (toms and such) as well as your lower string notes. Check this amp out from JL its their XD400/4 Class D Full range for your subs. Bridged it will supply around 200w RMS depending on voltage and its extreamely compact. XD400/4 - Car Audio - Amplifiers - XD - JL Audio

I am curious as far as your the setup you want for your mids and highs. Are you wanting to go two channel or a four channel setup?
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Old Mar 15, 2012 | 02:14 PM
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I really hate to be this guy, but you're feeding the OP just plain b.s. I've put it a **** ton of audio and been around it for quite some time, and I have to say that doing two subs on a bridged 4-channel amp is about the worst idea you could possibly have. What do you suggest he should do concerning the LPF, because of it being a 4-channel amp? What's he going to have--an oversized mid-bass driver? Also mention to the OP that those JL's above suck in a box that isn't vented. Not being negative, just my two cents. Home audio and car audio are a world apart.
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Old Mar 15, 2012 | 11:35 PM
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I really hate to be this guy, but you're feeding the OP just plain b.s. I've put it a **** ton of audio and been around it for quite some time, and I have to say that doing two subs on a bridged 4-channel amp is about the worst idea you could possibly have. What do you suggest he should do concerning the LPF, because of it being a 4-channel amp? What's he going to have--an oversized mid-bass driver? Also mention to the OP that those JL's above suck in a box that isn't vented. Not being negative, just my two cents. Home audio and car audio are a world apart.

Which is precisely my problem. I can build home audio setups any day of the week and they will sound fantastic. Car audio...thats a different world. The most I have done is a cheap deck, infinity reference in the front, stock rears, and a 10 inch sub in the back. All powered by wonderful high dollar $100 amps lol. It's better than stock, much clearer but still has NOTHING on my home stereo.

I would think you could call me a audiophile person. I personally don't agree more watts or more $$ means better sound though. I went out and picked up a set of bookshelf speakers. I spent 140 shipped for the set brand new. I have listened to them a billion times and to this day they are the clearest and most detailed I have ever heard. They set up a soundstage of a massive speaker, I have NO idea how they do it. I don't really think any of that matters though does it? Ha. I like the music to sound really good, as I said bass isn't that important of how loud it gets but I want it to be very accurate.

I am glad to see I am getting input from people though. I just want to be sure I am making the best purchase for the money, you really can't go drop a grand on a stereo and then do it again next month, gotta make sure it lasts and that it's good.

I will keep looking around I guess and see what I find. There are so so many speakers its hard to even set your mind on a particular thing.

OH so can I do a 2 channel set-up of any kind? I really want left and right subs. How should I attack this, I cant seem to find a amp of good RMS wattage thats a 2 channel.



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Old Mar 15, 2012 | 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Garage_Man
you really can't go drop a grand on a stereo and then do it again next month, gotta make sure it lasts and that it's good.

Thank you for realizing this. Most people just blow by that, and end up rebuilding an entire setup not far down the road. I dont' know if I mentioned it in this thread or not, but a two-channel amp just isn't ideal for subs, period. The LPF is going to be WAY high, at minimum, for subs on a two-channel. That alone cancels out the whole purpose of a sub--to pick up lows. Mono amp on the subs, four-channel on the components/coaxils. I promise you'll be good. Truth be told, you don't even have to amp the rear coaxils. A good front stage will work wonders.
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Old Mar 16, 2012 | 12:47 AM
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Thank you for realizing this. Most people just blow by that, and end up rebuilding an entire setup not far down the road. I dont' know if I mentioned it in this thread or not, but a two-channel amp just isn't ideal for subs, period. The LPF is going to be WAY high, at minimum, for subs on a two-channel. That alone cancels out the whole purpose of a sub--to pick up lows. Mono amp on the subs, four-channel on the components/coaxils. I promise you'll be good. Truth be told, you don't even have to amp the rear coaxils. A good front stage will work wonders.
Actually I may be a weird one here, but I have my stereo set so I can hear the rears along with the fronts. I usually have to turn the fronts down a little. I just might be a weird one here that does that.

Okay well them 2 amps i showed earlier how are them 2. I would be willing to spend the bit extra on the. There was the 4 channel and a mono. What do you think of them? Thanks Guys



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If you're talking about the Alpine you posted, I covered that. If it's not a PDX, it's really not worth buying. I've been around this stuff way too much and know better. If you're talking about the amps I posted, I assure you that there's nothing wrong with them. I wouldn't post junk, especially not in audio. I couldn't really understand that last phrase. I'm just winging it here with this. I just really hope you aren't under the impression that it takes one channel per speaker, because that's as far from the truth as it gets. I don't know how knowledgable you are with car audio, so I'm trying to cover it all.
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Old Mar 16, 2012 | 03:26 AM
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Originally Posted by CC05
If you're talking about the Alpine you posted, I covered that. If it's not a PDX, it's really not worth buying. I've been around this stuff way too much and know better. If you're talking about the amps I posted, I assure you that there's nothing wrong with them. I wouldn't post junk, especially not in audio. I couldn't really understand that last phrase. I'm just winging it here with this. I just really hope you aren't under the impression that it takes one channel per speaker, because that's as far from the truth as it gets. I don't know how knowledgable you are with car audio, so I'm trying to cover it all.

I meant the sundown amps. They don't have a 2 channel though.

Okay so as far as I know it is a 6 channel receiver. You can correct me if I am wrong, THIS IS FOR THE PIONEER HEAD I POSTED IN THE FIRST POST. THAT IS INDEED THE DECK I AM BUYING. <Not meant to be rude lol. Okay so it has Front R,L Rear R,L and Sub R,L. To me it would seem it is sub R,L not Mono It would all run off the coax cables obviously. It would seem like having a 2 channel amp to separate the right and left sub would be way better. You won't notice it to much but you will.
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Old Mar 16, 2012 | 03:36 AM
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Sundown amps are some of the best made. Period. Anyone with any real audio knowledge will tell you the exact same. They're top notch. The Pioneer deck that I posted is just the newer version of the one that you posted. Recievers aren't channeled. The AUX going in R/L has nothing to do with the sub playing differentiated notes, that can be distinguished from left to right. A two-channel amp is seriously pointless with subs. I really can't stress that enough. The LPF is just not low enough, which renders the whole "sub" concept POINTLESS, AND you'll be running both subs in the same exact size enclosure, same rms, same Hz...so NO, they won't sound different unless adjusted differently, which won't happen. I'll leave it at that, because I've seen a lot of "systems" go to ****. Good luck.
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Originally Posted by Garage_Man
I meant the sundown amps. They don't have a 2 channel though.

Okay so as far as I know it is a 6 channel receiver. You can correct me if I am wrong, THIS IS FOR THE PIONEER HEAD I POSTED IN THE FIRST POST. THAT IS INDEED THE DECK I AM BUYING. <Not meant to be rude lol. Okay so it has Front R,L Rear R,L and Sub R,L. To me it would seem it is sub R,L not Mono It would all run off the coax cables obviously. It would seem like having a 2 channel amp to separate the right and left sub would be way better. You won't notice it to much but you will.
get the 4400 its almost the same price man it just came out
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Old Mar 16, 2012 | 03:46 AM
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Originally Posted by CC05
Sundown amps are some of the best made. Period. Anyone with any real audio knowledge will tell you the exact same. They're top notch. The Pioneer deck that I posted is just the newer version of the one that you posted. Recievers aren't channeled. The AUX going in R/L has nothing to do with the sub playing differentiated notes, that can be distinguished from left to right. A two-channel amp is seriously pointless with subs. I really can't stress that enough. The LPF is just not low enough, which renders the whole "sub" concept POINTLESS, AND you'll be running both subs in the same exact size enclosure, same rms, same Hz...so NO, they won't sound different unless adjusted differently, which won't happen. I'll leave it at that, because I've seen a lot of "systems" go to ****. Good luck.
Gosh I must be really dumb at this stuff ha. Okay I will have a look at that head unit. I kinda like the look of the other one though. Well how aren't they channeled? It is just differentiating right and left.

I wasn't looking for them to sound differently though. Just separate right and left. A drum line is strong on the right channel sub and the bass guitar on the left. You know ha. Anyway I guess if mono is the better way i can do that instead.
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