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Old Aug 12, 2014 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Atomic
Its not quite that easy...

-You have spring pressure + pressure on top keeping the gate shut (which means the turbo spins faster makes and makes more boost)
-You have exhaust back pressure + pressure on bottom opening the gate (which makes the turbo spin slower so less boost)

If you tee the ports together they will cancel each other out and it will be eactly the same as spring pressure.

Not using a bottom reference will basically double spring pressure. So if you have a 6psi spring and it makes 6psi with the bottom port hooked up to the turbo, and you remove that reference line so the gate isnt connected to anything it should make about 12psi.

Try this before adding air on top.

Just a warning, if you put the reference line to the top of the wastegate without anything connected to the bottom port this means you are forcing the gate shut as boost increase so the turbo makes even more boost. Do not do this unless you want to blow up your engine.
I understand what you mean by running it with no reference. I'll try that.

But how can I add air to the top without hooking up the top port (which will create unlimited boost it sounds like)?
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Old Aug 12, 2014 | 04:45 PM
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well, i have news.

Good news is that I can make more than 8psi. Bad news is that a 30psi spike = kaboom







kidding. I took the reference line from the bottom and it now makes a consistent 12-13psi. Which is double the spring pressure as you said Richard. I was making 6psi with the exhaust connected and the MBC turned all the way down.

So now my question is, what do I do? Just get a stiffer spring and be done with it? Or is there a way to make my boost controller add more than the 2-3psi it's currently doing?
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Old Aug 14, 2014 | 07:01 PM
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Well, this was short lived.

I've now got excessive blow by which by all I've read is a broken ringland.

With cutout open, seeing about 14psi. AFR was in the mid 11s, timing at 13degrees. Apparently that was too much and it had ~4degrees knock. She's dead

I'm sad.

On the bright side, with the cutout open it made a ton more power. Pretty gentle roll in in 1st and it spun pretty good. Never done that before. Guess I'll get to try it again in a year or two
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Old Aug 14, 2014 | 07:21 PM
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Throw a 4.great in it and try again. I like to keep a couple on hand for backups.
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Old Aug 14, 2014 | 07:35 PM
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Ahhh man are you for real!?
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Old Aug 14, 2014 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Atomic
Ahhh man are you for real!?
Unfortunately.

And I blame you. You jinx
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Old Nov 15, 2014 | 05:34 PM
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Well, finally got over my sadness and got motivated to pull the motor and pull it apart.

At first I didn't see anything...and then I took a closer look at #7 Cracked the ringlands, but didn't even break the ring

I guess the good news is that the cylinder walls are fine, and a new piston and I should be good to go!





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Old Nov 16, 2014 | 04:48 PM
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Thatll do it!

I recommend replacing all the rings and doing a clean up hone before you install them
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Old Nov 16, 2014 | 05:34 PM
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That could've turned out really bad! At least you were able to salvage the motor. Were you able to find a piston?
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Old Nov 16, 2014 | 05:41 PM
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Turns out #7 didn't want to be alone and took #5 with him

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