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Old Jul 30, 2015 | 06:09 PM
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I recently completed a 6.0 4l80 swap on my 02 reg cag Z71. The engine is a low mileage stock bottom end with patriot 317 heads and comp cam. The cam specs are 226/222 on 115. Tranny is pretty much stock with a shift kit and a Circle D torque converter(3500). Now for the disappointing part. I recently had it tuned and it runs and drives great , but just feels really slow. It will not even peel out from a dig. I know that the totally stock exhaust and stock injectors are not good for performance, but I still expected more. My totally stock 5.3 Extended cab with a yank 3000 ran much better. This build is not ment to be NA., it will be turbocharged soon. I would hate to bolt the turbo on and it be this boring down low. After all that why I chose the 4x4. Any thoughts?
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Old Jul 30, 2015 | 06:53 PM
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It should be able to easily peal out no problem my 4.8 with just intake exhaust and tune will smoke the tires all day from a dig.

What gears and what tires are you running? and post a pic!
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Old Jul 30, 2015 | 07:10 PM
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Wondering did you degree the cam ? I had one recently 6 degrees out and had to get an adjustable timing chain\gear set or fight the battle of returning and waiting weeks.

If it was out a lot, you could certainly have a Dog Motor. Just food for thought on what could be a long list of possible things to make it slow
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Old Jul 30, 2015 | 09:31 PM
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I have 3.73 gears and the same wheels off the previous truck(basically sss wheels). No, I did not degree the cam.
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Old Jul 30, 2015 | 09:38 PM
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Combo is all botched up so I'm not sure what exactly you're expecting. Even a fully functioning 6 liter setup n/a is a turd.

Also, if you're not familiar with the 80e, going from a 60e is a dramatic difference in 1st gear due to the different gearing between the two trans. It's like compared a sprinter to a slug off the line, you need power to light it off.

Who's tuning it?
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Old Jul 30, 2015 | 09:40 PM
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patriot cams are junk
patriot heads suck and false flow numbers

80e is killing you big time

unless your over 500 rwhp then a 80e hurts ya
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Combo is all botched up so I'm not sure what exactly you're expecting. Even a fully functioning 6 liter setup n/a is a turd.

Also, if you're not familiar with the 80e, going from a 60e is a dramatic difference in 1st gear due to the different gearing between the two trans. It's like compared a sprinter to a slug off the line, you need power to light it off.

Who's tuning it?
Yea. I know it's not a good NA combo. That's not the route I'm going anyways. It will be turbocharged. Allen Nelson tuned it. I forgot about the 80e differences.
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Old Jul 30, 2015 | 09:50 PM
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[QUOTE=George C....;5303988]patriot cams are junk
patriot heads suck and false flow numbers

80e is killing you big time

unless your over 500 rwhp then a 80e hurts ya[/QUOTE

It's a comp cam and patriot heads. I would not buy these parts today, but it's what I had laying around from an abandoned build back in 04. Just trying to run what I have.
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Old Jul 30, 2015 | 10:33 PM
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The first gear in the 80e is 2.48 and the 60e is 3.06 or something, so that's a huge factor on your dig runs! The truck should be pretty lively after you get the turbo on! I would run a lower gear either way, at least a 4:10 maybe even lower depending on what size tires you run
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Old Jul 30, 2015 | 11:43 PM
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Trans is a lot of it and I don't like those big wide center cams like that for a heavy truck, and the reverse split is not helping power either. I run the triple 12 in my lq4 turbo 4x4 and love it. It will kill 33'' BFG's from a dead smash with zero boost.
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