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Old Sep 30, 2010 | 09:31 AM
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Hi guys, I have 2007 GenIV 5.3l engine that I installed in my older truck. I have added a cold air intake, jba headers, and a comp cam.(part #146-000-11, lift .513/.52 ,duration 206,212). I put all these in the engine before installing this swap in my truck. My question is I have a knocking noise that drives me crazy. I feel like it is coming from valvetrain, but not sure. We have already checked the o-ring in the oil pump screen and it is fine. The cam I installed is really mild so I don't think that would be the problem. If you have had this problem or have any ideas your response will be greatly appreciated!!!

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Old Sep 30, 2010 | 09:42 AM
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well if it was stock I would say its the infamous 5.3 knock.

But with a cam swap...theres more it could be. But exactly what Im not sure enough to say.

FYI...all 5.3 i have ever heard "knocked" at idle.
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Old Sep 30, 2010 | 09:43 AM
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well if it was stock I would say its the infamous 5.3 knock.

But with a cam swap...theres more it could be. But exactly what Im not sure enough to say.

FYI...all 5.3 i have ever heard "knocked" at idle.
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Old Sep 30, 2010 | 10:35 AM
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Or try a correct answer. Did you swap lifters with that cam? Does the valley cover have a "maze" pattern in it? Then you have AFM and this applies to you.

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#10-06-01-007: Active Fuel Management (AFM) Engine, Valve Lifter Tick Noise at Start Up When Engine Has Been Off for 2 Hours or More (Evaluate Noise and/or Replace Valve Lifters) - (Aug 13, 2010)


Subject: Active Fuel Management (AFM) Engine, Valve Lifter Tick Noise at Start Up When Engine Has Been Off for 2 Hours or More (Evaluate Noise and/or Replace Valve Lifters)


Models: 2007 Buick Rainier

2009 Buick LaCrosse Super, Allure Super (Canada Only)

2007 Cadillac Escalade

Built Prior to April 1, 2006 with 6.2L Engine RPO L92 (These engines were built with AFM Hardware but the AFM system was disabled)

2007 Chevrolet Monte Carlo

2007-2009 Chevrolet Impala

2007-2010 Chevrolet Avalanche, Silverado, Suburban, Tahoe, TrailBlazer

2010 Chevrolet Camaro SS

2007-2010 GMC Envoy, Sierra, Yukon

2007-2008 Pontiac Grand Prix

2008-2009 Pontiac G8

2007-2009 Saab 9-7X

Equipped with AFM (Active Fuel Management) V8 Engine (RPOs L76, L94, L99, LC9, LFA, LH6, LMG, LS4, LY5)



Attention: This bulletin only applies to the AFM V8 engines listed above. It DOES NOT apply to Non-AFM Engines. If you are dealing with a Non-AFM engine that is experiencing a similar noise, please refer to Engine Mechanical > Diagnostic Information and Procedures > Symptoms in SI.



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Condition
Some customers may comment on an engine valve lifter tick noise that occurs after the engine has been shut off for at least two hours. The tick noise may last from two seconds to ten minutes.

Cause
This condition may be caused by any of the following:

• Aerated oil in the valve lifter body, resulting in the valve lifter being unable to purge the air quickly.

• A low engine oil level or incorrect oil viscosity.

• Dirty or contaminated oil.

• A low internal valve lifter oil reservoir level.

• Debris in the valve lifter.

• A high valve lifter leak down rate.

Correction
If the SI diagnostics do not isolate the cause of this valve lifter tick noise and normal oil pressure is noted during the concern, perform the following steps:

Inspect the engine oil condition and level. Refer to Owner Manual > Service and Appearance Care > Checking Things Under the Hood > Description and Operation > Engine Oil in SI.
⇒ If the engine oil is more than one quart low, an incorrect oil viscosity is being used or if poor quality/contamination is observed, change the oil and filter.

Note: Allow at least a two hour soak time between engine OFF and start up when evaluating the tick noise.

Start the engine and evaluate the valve lifter tick noise.
⇒ If the valve lifter tick noise is still present, replace all 16 valve lifters. Refer to Valve Lifter Replacement in SI.

Parts Information
Note: A V8 AFM engine requires 8 AFM lifters and 8 non-AFM lifters for a total of 16 lifters.

Part Number
Description
Qty

12576400
Non AFM Hydraulic Valve Lifter
8

12632143
AFM Hydraulic Valve Lifter
8


Warranty Information (excluding Saab U.S. Models)
For vehicles repaired under warranty, use:

Labor Operation
Description
Labor Time

J0627
Valve Lifter Replacement - Both Sides
Use Published Labor Operation Time


Warranty Information (Saab U.S. Models)
For vehicles repaired under warranty, use:

Saab Labor Operation
Description
Failed Object
Fault/Reason Code
Location Code
Warranty Type
Repair/Action Code
STM Labor Time

21421-12
Replace part, Depressor
21421
40
5
1
01 (Replace)
Use Published STM Labor Operation Time
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Old Sep 30, 2010 | 01:19 PM
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I did not switch lifters, comp cam said it would not benefit me any. My engine knocks even after it is warmed up?
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Old Sep 30, 2010 | 02:35 PM
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The lifters with AFM/DOD are particular to cam profile, so they would need to be switched too, otherwise four of your cylinders will have valves with incorrect lift.
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Old Sep 30, 2010 | 05:05 PM
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Thanks for everybodys help, I think smokeshow hit it on the head. Called Comp today and it is because of my AFM lifters. Thanks again smokeshow!!!!
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