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Old 03-13-2011, 08:47 PM
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man thats SOOOO much build up, id pull it out for a rebuild

looks like that thing just came off the show room floor and had the heads pulled off it. good job man
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Originally Posted by jg53
i wouldnt touch a thing if you have no previous knowledge of a cam swap.

ive heard/read that the DOD delete and cam swap on these gen 4s are a pain
Why not? Is there something I can **** up bad? Or is it just not for first timers? I did my torque converter myseft with no previous experience , that's why I think I can take on the cam and DOD delete .
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Originally Posted by 08cheyennesc
Why not? Is there something I can **** up bad? Or is it just not for first timers? I did my torque converter myseft with no previous experience , that's why I think I can take on the cam and DOD delete .
I think its all about having the know how, confidence, and patience. If you have that go for it!
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Originally Posted by 2007chevy5.3l
I think its all about having the know how, confidence, and patience. If you have that go for it!
that and having the tools, book, know how of swapping a cam. if you get in a rush pulling the cam, or putting the cam back in you will nick/scratch the cam bearings which will ruin the cam, and the cam bearings.

if you know how to use a torque wrench (the right way) and can follow instructions, not rush the process, and have the tools-space to do it, then i say go for it. we can walk you through the whole process if need be but there are a lot of tools you have to buy to do the cam swap if thats the route you go.


10-75ft lbs 3/8" torque wrench
20-250ft lbs 1/2" torque wrench
15/16" deep socket with a long 1/2" breaker bar
long and short prybar
10mm deep drive socket
8mm deep drive socket
13mm deep drive and shallow drive socket
15mm socket
3" and 6" extension
3/8" ratchet or air ratchet
1/2" impact or 1/2" ratchet
loc-tite
rags
brake cleaner
3 arm claw puller
NO BEER till after you are done. i dont want to see anyone leave a socket/rag/particals in the motor and ruin it

i may be missing a few things but thats the basic needs of a DOD swap. soak your lifters 24hrs imo. key thing is taking your time and remembering everything that you took out has to go back. this isnt a good project to have bolts/parts left over
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Thanks but the only reason it looks soo clean is I taped and painted the parts of the block you see and I wasted 4 cans of carb cleaner while sitting on the rad support and scraped all the dang carbon build up off my slugs.. I dont know if its the quality of fuel or if its bc of the fuel management? It was worse than I expected on a 3 year old vehicle with only 18k miles on her... I wish the U.P.S. man would hurry the heck up!! I'm tired of coming home with no boxes on the porch
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Originally Posted by afterburn84
Soo I just done the DOD delete and cam swap or I should say in the process of it. Be finished sometime in the morning. Someone ruffled my feathers when I heard that when I give it the initial start that it will be locked in 4 cyl mode until I get it tuned? Anyone heard of this or is this bologna?If this is the case, will it hurt to let the cam cycle through a couple heat cycles in 4 banger mode? I am done working for tonight on it, just looking for answers
Locked in 4 cyl mode?? No, the DOD delete is just that, it has been deleted. All those parts have been removed. How would it stay in 4 cyl mode?
As some others have posted getting the proper torque on the head bolts can be a challenge. Do yourself a favor and use ARP bolts. These do not need to be stretched to gain proper torque, only torqued in 3 stages.
When I did mine I pulled the engine. It's really not much more work. Then you can install new cam bearings for some piece of mind. Here is the link to my write up.

https://www.performancetrucks.net/fo...nation+project
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Well your build is very nice Mrgoodwrench. But Im not going that deep in mine. Just a mild cam and new springs with the DOD delete. I am very interested in the ARP head bolts bc with the headers just layin over, its still a pain in the rear for me to even get the heads off and I WAS dreading doing the stretch on a set of OE bolts. When you use ARP bolts the sequence is the same but what is the ft.lbs and stages you torque them?
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Yes the torque sequence is the same. The large bolts are torqued in 3 stages.
30, 50, 80 lb-ft.
The smaller M8 bolts are to 22 lb-ft.
It is a good idea to go over all the bolts several times to be sure.

I would highly recommend you get this book.

How to build and modify GM LS-Series Engines. Written by Joseph Potak. The publisher is Motorbooks. This is the best LS book I have seen. So much great information. You can find it on Amazon.
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Ok good deal on the ARP bolts... I have a book called How to build high performance LS1/LS6 V-8s by Will Handzel.. Pretty informative but I can tell its still lacking some detail....
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