cam time for the denali! :) heads or intake worth it?
01-08-2014, 10:30 AM
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Cool project , take pics and keep us updated .
Your truck is running strong pre-cam , should see mid 13s or better with the cam / converter .
Will you have enough injector ? I know our' flex fuel nalis have 36 lb/hr injectors , pumps I've read will provide enough fuel 600horse .
Is Zippy working with you to retune this ? And with your current tune did mail order or live tune it ? 13.9 is damn strong for tune /exhaust
Also I need to reaserch doing a cam swap with VVT , doesn't seem too bad , without searching specs is the cam you chose a VVT grind ?
Your truck is running strong pre-cam , should see mid 13s or better with the cam / converter .
Will you have enough injector ? I know our' flex fuel nalis have 36 lb/hr injectors , pumps I've read will provide enough fuel 600horse .
Is Zippy working with you to retune this ? And with your current tune did mail order or live tune it ? 13.9 is damn strong for tune /exhaust
Also I need to reaserch doing a cam swap with VVT , doesn't seem too bad , without searching specs is the cam you chose a VVT grind ?
I think I should be fine with my injectors but if not that's no a big deal to upgrade.
yes ive been working with zippy on it..i was planning on running a vvt cam..but after some long talks with him. he convinced me that the vvt is basicly worthless and a waste to try to keep since it doesn't effectively work how its presented to. I had a second cam picked out basicly the one that LMR used..but he wasn't crazy about that one either..im running the one he strongly suggested and after looking at the number I really think im gonna like it a lot. hes never steered me wrong and all my vehicles ive worked with him on tunes have ran veryyyy strong. I bought hp tuners so I can just log and send it to him and he sends it back. that way I can skip the mail order down time.
01-08-2014, 10:38 AM
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I guess if your taking the heads off and want them decked why not, I considered doing it myself but wasnt sure of the real gain i would see for the price. That stall is going to Rip for sure tho, if you havent driven with one before, be ready for a large change in daily driving.
well my Camaro has a 5400 stall in it and I drive that on the street soo I probly well hardly notice haha
01-08-2014, 10:43 AM
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Tim I don't believe thats a VVT cam. I think it uses the LSL lobes you have in your truck but I could be mistaken. Its a 223/231.
With a converter this thing will be good for a 12 IMO. I don't think its too much to ask out of a cam and converter combo to drop a second off your times. Especially bumping power to the right on the curve when you have a 6 speed with really small shift extensions.
With a converter this thing will be good for a 12 IMO. I don't think its too much to ask out of a cam and converter combo to drop a second off your times. Especially bumping power to the right on the curve when you have a 6 speed with really small shift extensions.
223 231 .610 .617 112° I also think its safe to expect 12s..id really like to pull off a 11.99999 out of the truck with a few more things because I couldn't get there with my supercharged SS...but one step at a time..im hoping for 12s and thinking some more gear would get me alil deeper in the 12s
01-08-2014, 05:56 PM
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thanks!..it better see a lot better then 3 or 4 tenths tho to..theres another denali that's 2wd that LMR put together that runs 12.4s n/a
I think I should be fine with my injectors but if not that's no a big deal to upgrade.
yes ive been working with zippy on it..i was planning on running a vvt cam..but after some long talks with him. he convinced me that the vvt is basicly worthless and a waste to try to keep since it doesn't effectively work how its presented to. I had a second cam picked out basicly the one that LMR used..but he wasn't crazy about that one either..im running the one he strongly suggested and after looking at the number I really think im gonna like it a lot. hes never steered me wrong and all my vehicles ive worked with him on tunes have ran veryyyy strong. I bought hp tuners so I can just log and send it to him and he sends it back. that way I can skip the mail order down time.
I think I should be fine with my injectors but if not that's no a big deal to upgrade.
yes ive been working with zippy on it..i was planning on running a vvt cam..but after some long talks with him. he convinced me that the vvt is basicly worthless and a waste to try to keep since it doesn't effectively work how its presented to. I had a second cam picked out basicly the one that LMR used..but he wasn't crazy about that one either..im running the one he strongly suggested and after looking at the number I really think im gonna like it a lot. hes never steered me wrong and all my vehicles ive worked with him on tunes have ran veryyyy strong. I bought hp tuners so I can just log and send it to him and he sends it back. that way I can skip the mail order down time.
Glad to hear your injectors may be good , nice not to have to mess with the fuel system .
12 flat or lower I like the sound of that for an N/A daily driver !
Cool that zippy is working with ya on the tuning /setup , he knows his stuff ,
He built my first 60e back in '05 when he lived in Muskegon , he's a blast .
So he's got the 6speed shifting good too ?
If ya got any exhaust vids or truck pics post em !
01-08-2014, 06:15 PM
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11's are definitely possible... but it aint gonna happen without some sort of power adder.
I think a lot of those denali's you are talking about were 2wd which means they were down a couple hundred pounds compared to you and I'm sure were running on a really light drag wheel/tire combo.
With the cam you chose I would venture a guess that it will run about a 12.8 or so depending on the converter choice.
I think a lot of those denali's you are talking about were 2wd which means they were down a couple hundred pounds compared to you and I'm sure were running on a really light drag wheel/tire combo.
With the cam you chose I would venture a guess that it will run about a 12.8 or so depending on the converter choice.
01-09-2014, 07:00 AM
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You should be pretty happy with those changes. Wont be able to kick the back end around but not much will be able to touch it at a stoplight. I havent run the quarter yet but im thinkin that my truck 12's with et street drags no problem. I'm 2wd with similar mods.
01-09-2014, 11:48 AM
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Thanks for the info on the VVT, I'll have to reaserch on what all is needed to delete it , I think keeping it simple and reliable like all the other non VVT cammed LS engines out there is a good thing .
Glad to hear your injectors may be good , nice not to have to mess with the fuel system .
12 flat or lower I like the sound of that for an N/A daily driver !
Cool that zippy is working with ya on the tuning /setup , he knows his stuff ,
He built my first 60e back in '05 when he lived in Muskegon , he's a blast .
So he's got the 6speed shifting good too ?
If ya got any exhaust vids or truck pics post em !
Glad to hear your injectors may be good , nice not to have to mess with the fuel system .
12 flat or lower I like the sound of that for an N/A daily driver !
Cool that zippy is working with ya on the tuning /setup , he knows his stuff ,
He built my first 60e back in '05 when he lived in Muskegon , he's a blast .
So he's got the 6speed shifting good too ?
If ya got any exhaust vids or truck pics post em !
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12 flat or lower from a N/A dd is my dream however I know I don't think il be able to get there.
yep still workin with zippy all the time. was easier when he was still in Muskegon.. I was out in vegas and stop by to check out his new shop a few months ago..had some big power cars there to
and yessss he can make a monster out of the 6speeds with just tuning mine is perfect!!!..did a buddy of mines 2013 with a 5.3 and bolt ons and that damn thing gets rubber it 2nd and 3rd I couldn't belive it haha!
01-09-2014, 11:54 AM
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11's are definitely possible... but it aint gonna happen without some sort of power adder.
I think a lot of those denali's you are talking about were 2wd which means they were down a couple hundred pounds compared to you and I'm sure were running on a really light drag wheel/tire combo.
With the cam you chose I would venture a guess that it will run about a 12.8 or so depending on the converter choice.
I think a lot of those denali's you are talking about were 2wd which means they were down a couple hundred pounds compared to you and I'm sure were running on a really light drag wheel/tire combo.
With the cam you chose I would venture a guess that it will run about a 12.8 or so depending on the converter choice.
yes your correct the truck I was talking about was badassvho..which is 2wd im not sure what a 2wd cc weighs in at. ive seen 2wd ext cabs come in at about 5000lbs..so im sure a cc would be 5300ish?? mine comes in at 5680lbs..soo even with equal hp I cant catch badassvho's 12.4s obviously
01-09-2014, 11:59 AM
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did you see much gain with the tb and ud pulley?