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Old Mar 1, 2008 | 02:51 PM
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i know the old Denali's used to be AWD, but do the NNBS Denali's have 4hi and 4lo now?

my current truck will not pull my boat out of the water in auto 4wd, but it will in 4hi or 4lo.
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Old Mar 1, 2008 | 03:04 PM
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They Are Either Awd Or 2 Wheel Drive
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Old Mar 2, 2008 | 12:27 PM
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thanks.
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Old Mar 2, 2008 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by gold87TBI
They Are Either Awd Or 2 Wheel Drive
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Originally Posted by KeukaZ71
my current truck will not pull my boat out of the water in auto 4wd, but it will in 4hi or 4lo.
Auto 4WD is not the same as AWD though.
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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 05:16 PM
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would AWD be like full time 4wd?

so which is it (AWD) most similar to, auto 4WD or 4Hi?
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Old Mar 4, 2008 | 02:38 AM
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AWD does have a 1:1 ratio in the transfer case like 4wd but instead of a mechanical 50:50 split front and rear it has a variable ratio split between the two. I'm not sure which awd transfer case they use now so I'm not sure if its viscous or mechanical and what the split ratio is. Also AWD is "on" all the time. Auto 4wd operates in 2wd mode until slip then it activates the transfer case on an as needed basis
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Originally Posted by PSM
AWD does have a 1:1 ratio in the transfer case like 4wd but instead of a mechanical 50:50 split front and rear it has a variable ratio split between the two. I'm not sure which awd transfer case they use now so I'm not sure if its viscous or mechanical and what the split ratio is. Also AWD is "on" all the time. Auto 4wd operates in 2wd mode until slip then it activates the transfer case on an as needed basis
so i would take that as AWD is more similar to 4HI than Auto 4WD.

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so i would take that as AWD is more similar to 4HI than Auto 4WD.

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Yes, but it puts 40% of the power to the front and 60% to rear at all times.

Here's some info...
Document ID# 1708507
2007/2008 GMC Truck Sierra Denali

Transfer Case Description and Operation:
The Borg Warner (BW) model 4485, RPO NR3 transfer case is a 1-speed, full time, all wheel drive (AWD), transfer case. The transfer case provides power to both axles, through an external planetary type differential, which has 2 different sets of pinion gears. The planetary differential provides a 40/60 torque split, front/rear, full time. This means both axles are constantly being driven for maximum traction in all conditions.

The transfer case external type planetary differential functions the same as a typical rear axle differential. The transfer case differential pinion gears function as the spider gears, and the sun gears function as the side gears.

The following actions occur because of the planetary differential:

• If the vehicle is on a hoist, the front propeller shaft can be rotated by hand.

• The vehicle cannot be driven if 1 propeller shaft is removed.

• Operating the vehicle on the hoist can damage the differential pinion gears, by over-spinning.

• Operating the vehicle with 1 propeller shaft removed causes over-spinning of the differential pinion gears.

The BW 4485 design of the planetary differential allows the use with the Vehicle Stability Enhancement System (VSES) vehicles. The VSES takes use of the planetary differential, by applying braking to a tire that has less traction and dividing the engine torque to the other axle.

The BW 4485 case halves are high-pressure, die-cast magnesium. Ball bearings support the input shaft, the front output shaft, and the rear output shaft. The transfer case requires DEXRON®VI Automatic Transmission Fluid (ATF) GM P/N 88861003 (Canadian P/N 88861004), which is red in color.

When the BW 4485 is operating in the AWD mode, the power flows from the transmission to the transfer case input shaft. The input shaft delivers the power to the planetary differential. The case of the planetary differential is splined to the input shaft. The planetary differential splits the torque 40 percent through the front differential pinion gears to the front sun gear. The front sun gear is engaged with the drive sprocket, which drives the chain to the front output shaft, and power is delivered to the front propeller shaft. 60 percent of the torque to the rear output shaft goes through the rear differential pinion gears and rear sun gear, which is connected to the rear output shaft and to the rear propeller shaft.

Document ID# 1708507
2007/2008 GMC Truck Sierra Denali
You should have no problem pulling a boat up a ramp with this truck.
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So how do you dyno an AWD Denali?
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 09:40 AM
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Find a dyno big enough to accomodate it. Its not an easy task. Some NBS guys were pulling their front driveshafts but the jury is still out weather or not this causes any harm.
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