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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 11:45 AM
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Is there anything better about an in-line 6 cycl turbo deisel motor over a regular V8 cycl gasoline motor?

I heard Dodge had an incline 6 turbo deisel motor that was putting everything else to shame in terms of power and durability.

Whats the selling point of these tiny inline 6 cycl turbo diesel motors?
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 12:01 PM
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they might be tiny but oh man they are the best diesels built. They have the most tq/hp and best durability. they have been around for along time but the design is simple but effective. the problem with dodge's are the looks and the tranny's.
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 12:18 PM
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For a truck the cummins is the **** you put in a set of injectors and throw on a good box about a 135hp one will do (computer mod to a whole nother level) and get rid of the muffler and your lookin at 400hp and 700lbft easy. My brother in law has a 2000 Dodge 2500 4wd cummins A4 with no muffler AFE air filter and o'yea 150hp injectors. The tranny is already BEGGING for mercy the lock-up on the converter wont hold more than 1\4 throttle before it starts to shutter and slip. Pretty good for 650$ worth of
Ebay mods and his best friend has 2001 m6 with same mods plus a 135hp
box and he can give my TA a little bit of a run (for a 7000lb truck) from a roll
and will kill a GT stang on a roll! Ive seen him do it its pretty cool to see the mustang drivers face after a diesel truck just waxed his ***.
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe DIESO
Whats the selling point of these tiny inline 6 cycl turbo diesel motors?
Torque. 600 ft/lbs of it right from the factory.
Try to find a gas engine that even comes close.
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 01:00 PM
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There are tons of advantages to an inline 6 diesel. Here are some:

1) Less rotating parts than a V8, hence less to break
2) Comparable displacement in a 6 cy = larger parts (pistons, connecting rods, etc)
3) Inline engines produce more torque.
4) The torque it makes comes lower in the RPM range than a V engine. Big rigs and tractors are usually governed around 2200 to 2500 RPMS.
5) Lower RPMs means less wear per mile, and a longer lasting engine.

ALL class 8 engines (big rigs) are I6's for the above reasons. The only downside that I am aware of is that it takes a long hood and different engine mount / frame design compared to your typical V8 gasser. I'll bet that is why Chevy and Ford don't use inline diesel engines.
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 02:17 PM
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A lot of guys swear by the inline 6 diesel.

The cummins engine definitely has good potential, and they often last a long, long time even with power levels way over stock. Until the cummins got common rail fuel injection in 03, it was a very noisy engine, IMO. The trucks that they come in are also extremely ugly.

The cummins has 600 ft/lbs, the duramax has 590 and the ford 6.0 powerstroke has 560. I believe the cummins has it's peak torque available at the lowest RPM of the three.

I'm not sure what kind of mods are out for the cummins 600 engine because it is so new.
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 05:48 PM
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I6=Low end torque, less moving parts, smoother hp/torque curve (not peaky like a diesel V8), etc etc etc. Id love to get an old 12 valve 5.9 and have fun with it!! I think Ill pass on the new 5.9HO..
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 06:34 PM
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There are many benefits to an I-6, not just in diesels but in gas engines also. I had an old f-100 with a 4.9L 300c.i. I-6, I always wanted to build that motor up but ended up having to sell the truck for my new one. It made mad torque and it will end up being a project when I have to much time. But if you look at Europena cars, bmw m3, porsche, etc. They all have small I-6's that make insane power. In my opinion you can make a stonger more reliable and more powerful inline motor over a V configured motor, just nobody does it.
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by benpimpin1
There are many benefits to an I-6, not just in diesels but in gas engines also. I had an old f-100 with a 4.9L 300c.i. I-6, I always wanted to build that motor up but ended up having to sell the truck for my new one. It made mad torque and it will end up being a project when I have to much time. But if you look at Europena cars, bmw m3, porsche, etc. They all have small I-6's that make insane power. In my opinion you can make a stonger more reliable and more powerful inline motor over a V configured motor, just nobody does it.
my dad had a 82 F-100 inline 6 too. i wish he would have kept it
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 09:25 PM
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hmmm duramax is 590 ft lbs at only 200 rpms lower peak. the days of the cummins (not dodge) supremacy is honestly over). the new dodge is great in terms of power and noise (MUUUUCH less than before due to the common fuel rail and 3 event fuel injection) but at the major cost of fuel economy. go check out the dodge cummins boards. #1 complain is teh 12 mpg they are getting! they used to get 20 mpg. low end tq? they used to have the advantage. now we are talking stock. now lets talk additional "BOMB" power. not much will touch a cummins.

lets talk duramax. guys have gone over 700 rwhp and not broken a rod or block. says something. another thing. 1 box which is a edge hot juice box like we run. it will make 430 rwhp and WELL into 850 rwtq. did i mention 100% stock otehr than the box? did i mention 21 mpg at 70 mph? GMC/Isuzu made one HELLAVE diesel. just my .02

IMHO, the only advantage of an cummins is the inherent design of I-6 which means less rotational force on teh crank = less wear = more milage possibly.
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