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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Snake Eater
This is a one time heavy load an I will have NO tongue weight. Towing double I will only be around 7500#, well within my tow limits.
You will be in your limit but the double is not, go with the 24' flat bed that will be your best choose, and installing a brake controller is super easy. Buy the brake controller, and pigtail for your Tahoe, both are cheap, you just need a controller for dual axle, any more is just wasting your money. In the electrical bus under the dash is spot for the brake controller pigtail, this is tied to your trailer plug.
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by cbrich
You will be in your limit but the double is not, go with the 24' flat bed that will be your best choose, and installing a brake controller is super easy. Buy the brake controller, and pigtail for your Tahoe, both are cheap, you just need a controller for dual axle, any more is just wasting your money. In the electrical bus under the dash is spot for the brake controller pigtail, this is tied to your trailer plug.
My Yukon came with a Brake Controler and hook up stuff, its just sitting in the glove box. I guess someone who was going to buy it before me wanted one and they never took it out.

Yes normaly you have to take the drive shaft out, but in a 4x4 you can just put the transfer case in -N- and leave the trany in -P-. Much easier with a 4x4 than 2wd and removing the shaft. Thats why most RV's tow a 4x4 of some sort.
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Old Jun 17, 2006 | 02:21 PM
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I did a little quick research on this and what I found is that in most states double towing is NOT legal unless the first towed vehicle has a 5th wheel style hitch (no bumper style hitches) and the overall length does not exceed 60-65 ft. The only states that would allow double towing with bumper or penal ball style hitches also required the driver to have a class A license (CDL) with a doubles endorsement, but there are only a couple of stated where even this is legal. I don't believe there is any states that allow you to tow a trailer behind a vehicle being towed with a tow bar. I know it's not what you wanted to hear, but that's what I found .

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Old Jun 17, 2006 | 07:04 PM
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I wish you well, but must say, common sense isn't by your side if you attempt such a trip in general, let alone with a vehicle clearly not meant/built to do it.

You may not think so, but those 8 extra wheels on the ground will make a difference to the tow vehicle. Besides, doubles are very dangerous even behind trucks meant to tow them. Something like your lightweight Yukon will become virtually uncontrollable at highway speeds if the trailers start to sway behind you(and they almost certainly will).

The single 24' trailer is a better idea by far. Safer to begin with, and more comfortable for the haul because it allows fewer wheels on the ground. You'll still be near the limits of the Yukons overall design and you'll know it the moment you make your 1st pitstop(if not earlier) when you see the load attached and settled. But it will be much better for you. Follow safely to avoid hard braking. That's the limit most concerning imo.
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Old Jun 17, 2006 | 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by A4drTD
I wish you well, but must say, common sense isn't by your side if you attempt such a trip in general, let alone with a vehicle clearly not meant/built to do it.

You may not think so, but those 8 extra wheels on the ground will make a difference to the tow vehicle. Besides, doubles are very dangerous even behind trucks meant to tow them. Something like your lightweight Yukon will become virtually uncontrollable at highway speeds if the trailers start to sway behind you(and they almost certainly will).

The single 24' trailer is a better idea by far. Safer to begin with, and more comfortable for the haul because it allows fewer wheels on the ground. You'll still be near the limits of the Yukons overall design and you'll know it the moment you make your 1st pitstop(if not earlier) when you see the load attached and settled. But it will be much better for you. Follow safely to avoid hard braking. That's the limit most concerning imo.
I don't think anyone makes a low boy 24' tandem axled trailer with duallers. I've only seen them with tandem axles with a single tire & wheel on each axle end. I still say that is way too much trailer for that kind of vehicle. You have to add the weight of the trailer in with your load weight as well.
No, you will definately max out that vehicle's GVW's carrying capacity.
I wouldn't do it. You might want to re-think your judgement.
Buy a 3/4 ton H.D. truck for that, or do lighter hauling with a smaller trailer.

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Old Jun 17, 2006 | 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by cbrich
When towing an automatic, you have to pull the driveshaft (also manual too) because the transmission pump is not turn, so no oil is circulating through the transmission. This lack of oil burns up clutches, seizes bushing to shafts plus melts seal rings. Some Power Glides have a rear pump to circulate oil when be towed, this is just a little knowledge for the ones who did not know that.
Thanks for the info, i did not know that.
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Old Jun 18, 2006 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by CHEVY6000VHO
I don't think anyone makes a low boy 24' tandem axled trailer with duallers. I've only seen them with tandem axles with a single tire & wheel on each axle end.
I didn't figure on 8 trailer wheels for a 24 footer. Indeed, I've never seen a 24' car hauler that wasn't a gooseneck myself. I know there's a 22 footer though. The 8 wheels comment was part of the "double" idea. His 16' trailer has four, as does the Blazer between it and the Yukon.

I still say that is way too much trailer for that kind of vehicle. You have to add the weight of the trailer in with your load weight as well.
I think it's too much as well. But I'm not driving for him and I doubt he's in a position to go buy a new truck. Plus, if he rents, he'll have to haul the Blazer and the Yukon, along with everything else and that requires a big truck and trailer, so it'll be expensive. My personal preferrence would be to get someone to drive one of the vehicles for me, and buy them a plane ticket back to wherever. Then again, I have a one ton truck and a 30' trailer at my disposal, so it's not my predicament.

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Thanks for the info, i did not know that.
You could also just take the drive wheels off the ground if hauling a 2wd.
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Old Jun 18, 2006 | 12:03 PM
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My trailer is a 24 foot flat deck in aluminum and pushes well over 2500 pounds just by itself.



In your previous post you said there will be no tongue weight. That alone will cause dangerous sway. You NEED ten to fifteen percent of the load to be on the tongue for a proper tow.

At a minimum you will need a weight distribution hitch and at best a ton of luck to tow that load with the Tahoe. Helper springs or airbags would be needed too. You really are outclassing the capabilities of the Tahoe with that load. I would never hitch my trailer to my Tahoe as it is too short, would be maxed out on power and cooling capacity and would squat like a bitch in heat.

Even my 2500HD squats solidly with a full load on my trailer and the WD hitch is a must. Use 5K for the Blazer, plus 1K for the ATV, add whatever miscellaneous junk you will be hauling on the trailer and then the trailer weight to get your load. That trailer in steel will weigh a minimum of 3500 pounds if not way more. Don't forget the load in the Tahoe itself too. I can only imagine the kind of fuel you will be sucking down to do this also.

It is not worth wrecking all your possesions and risking lives to do this. I tow my rig all over the country and I see so many bad tow rigs it is amazing that more people don't get killed. Bottom line is if you have any kind of problem and the law/insurance company gets involved you will be screwed for towing out of limits. Case closed, you are done.
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Old Jun 18, 2006 | 12:12 PM
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Well there has been some good input here as well as some DUMB remarks.

1. This is a ONE time trip back home to TX, so it is just retarded for me to go buy a 3/4 ton truck for ONE trip.

2. Its not a matter of common sence, I HAVE to get these things back home. Leaving something 2200 miles away and making a second trip is crazy. Also paying someone to move/drive/ship one of them isnt happening either.

Either way I sold my trailer (one axle) and am figuring something else out.

The 24' flatbed IS a bumper tow and I may look into that route.
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Old Jun 18, 2006 | 12:35 PM
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With towing useing a tow bar setup there is no tongue weight, thats what I was talking about.

With a trailer I will have tongue weight, and if its alot of tongue I have air shocks to adjust. This is as safe as it gets in my current case/situation.
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