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Apr 10, 2003 | 12:52 AM

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<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by BigTex:
 My Opinion: The whole idea that torque is a bad thing is stupid. (originally posted my Thunder 2K1 in the old post) <hr /></blockquote>ok buddy, the next time u wanna label me saying something that is false think again, i cant beleive u just posted that. at no point did i ever say torque was a "bad thing". i duno what it is with people putting words in my mouth but its gotta stop. thats not right man

anyway, the dynoed difference between the 5.3 and 4.8 is about 30tq. the guys who claim that they can get good traction on street in the 5.3 are absolutely right, i have no argument if they can or cannot.
i am saying this: those guys can get good traction with the 5.3, but to do so, they do not use the full torque potential advantge of the 5.3, or else they will break em loose. am i making sense here, does anyone see what im saying yet?

[ April 10, 2003, 01:07 AM: Message edited by: Thunder 2k1 ]

Apr 10, 2003 | 01:00 AM

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Re: New 4.8 vs. 5.3 post

OK let me bust out my big autobrain math.. If I may..

HP X RPM / 5252 = Tq

Tq X 5252 / RPM = HP

That is why the power and torque often cross right at 5252RPM.

Despite what I said the the "High Reving" post.

Big is better!! (almost always.)

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[ April 10, 2003, 01:17 AM: Message edited by: GoldenVelvet ]

Apr 10, 2003 | 07:47 AM

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Re: New 4.8 vs. 5.3 post

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Thunder 2k1:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by BigTex:
 My Opinion: The whole idea that torque is a bad thing is stupid. (originally posted my Thunder 2K1 in the old post) <hr /></blockquote>ok buddy, the next time u wanna label me saying something that is false think again<hr /></blockquote>It seems that you are the one doing all the "labeling" on these threads. I said the "idea" is stupid, nothing against you personally.

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Thunder 2k1 in the old post:
 to that idiot that said more torque does not = less traction. how do u figure? the car with more torque is obviously gonna lose traction more <hr /></blockquote>Everyone else - sloverado, red2k, and whoever else is going to jump in, keep this thread civil please.

Apr 10, 2003 | 08:02 AM

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<img border="0" alt="[angel]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_angel.gif" /> no use even starting in. help me with my pics of my truck there BIGTEX

Apr 10, 2003 | 08:09 AM

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<blockquote>quote:<hr />he was rollin 20s also but that doesnt make that much of a difference<hr /></blockquote>Rolling mass impacts ET about twice as much as static mass. If your wheels/tires weigh 100 lbs more, the result at the track is like adding 200 lbs to your truck. Why do you think the drag racers all put lightweight wheels and tires on?

Lightweight wheels/tires also affect dynojet numbers FYI.

Tony

Apr 10, 2003 | 08:21 AM

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Re: New 4.8 vs. 5.3 post

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Nine Ball:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />he was rollin 20s also but that doesnt make that much of a difference<hr /></blockquote>Rolling mass impacts ET about twice as much as static mass. If your wheels/tires weigh 100 lbs more, the result at the track is like adding 200 lbs to your truck. Why do you think the drag racers all put lightweight wheels and tires on?

Lightweight wheels/tires also affect dynojet numbers FYI.

Tony <hr /></blockquote>My billet 20's weigh much less than the factory steel wheels that I had. I actually dropped a couple of tenths when I threw the 20s on there.

As for 4.8 vs. 5.3--my modded '01 4.8 is about 3-5 tenths slower than my buddy's bone-stock '02 5.3. And, my 4.8 would turn the tires over quite easily, thank you very much! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

Apr 10, 2003 | 03:56 PM

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bigtex- i wasnt mad because u called it stupid, i was mad cuz u said that i said torque was a "bad thing" which i didnt

scream- i dont know what the deal is with ur truck, u shouldnt be losing to ur freind. im guessing it might be a combination of 20s and higher gears maybe?

[ April 10, 2003, 03:57 PM: Message edited by: Thunder 2k1 ]

Apr 10, 2003 | 05:36 PM

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Re: New 4.8 vs. 5.3 post

Ok, I have a theory here that might make everyone happy? I'm gonna use Scream as an example ( <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> ). He has a 01 RCSB 2wd 4.8 A4 with 3.42's and some bolt ons and I have the same set up except it's a stock 02 with a 5.3. I've got him beat by about 3 to 4 tenths in the 1/8 and 2 to 3 tenths in the 1/4, but our MPH is EXACTLY the same in the 1/8 and 1/4. So that leads me to believe that we are generating the same amount of top end HP, it's the low end is where the difference is.

Can Scream beat me? YEAH! Let's say we're street racing from a stop light. The light turns green and I instantly hammer the throttle to the floor which ignites my tires into a blaze of glory. Scream takes off like he has some sense, and I have no hope of running him down because I just lost my only advantage - that torquey hole shot. <img border="0" alt="[bang head]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_banghead.gif" />

All things being equal the 4.8 is weaker than the 5.3 which is weaker than the 6.0. Can a 4.8 beat a 5.3? Yup, but as a general rule the 5.3 wins because HP/TQ is king.

I do get traction on the street with the 5.3, when I want to that is! <img border="0" alt="[evil]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_devil.gif" />
<img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />

Apr 10, 2003 | 06:04 PM

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Re: New 4.8 vs. 5.3 post

i cant believe someone is saying good things about the 4.8L.... crackpipes ARE evil

Apr 10, 2003 | 06:30 PM

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Re: New 4.8 vs. 5.3 post

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by really slow truck:
 i cant believe someone is saying good things about the 4.8L.... crackpipes ARE evil <hr /></blockquote>just for the record, these are the comments that **** me off

on a better note...
seeing red- i see what ur saying and i agree <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />

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