Killed an SS tonight...
#11
um.....I have an LQ4 6.0, that's only supposedly 45hp less....and I STILL find it hard to believe that a .6 CR bump and minor tuning is good for a 45hp difference between the LQ4 in my truck and the LQ9 in the SS, it's got the same cam as the 5.7 LS1, it has a better head design than the 5.7 LS1 and it is 18 cubes bigger.....I FIRMLY believe that the LQ4 is ALOT closer to 345hp than GM lets on (I've said this before) AND, it's rated at 325 in the Sierra C3 and the Denali. So, that said, with the CAI, exhuast, and tuning I'm probably only supposedly 15-20hp down, and I weigh slightly less too
Those numbers you called off are for an ECSB 5.3....as far as I can tell a Silverado 2500 with a 6.0 has never been tested by Motor Trend (I searched the site) so your point is moot. (BTW...a '99-'00 2500 is a 1/2 ton truck with a 6.0, a 4L80e transmission, and slightly beefier suspension.....kinda sounds like a psuedo-VHO doesn't it)
I'm really sorry if your 5.3 is slower than my 6.0.....39 extra cubic inches can do that sometimes
And....NO, I DIDN'T have to put it in 4wd to hang with the SS off the line, throttle modulation is a wonderful thing.....sometimes a full-throttle blast off the line is pointless
If you want to start a fight here I'll gladly continue this until the thread gets locked....but it really seems pointless to me to do so, I beat an SS...good for me, I DIDN'T beat your friends SS so that conversation is moot as well.
On a more constructive note here....have you considered having that PCMforLess tune checked, I've seen alot better numbers out of that cam and very similar combos
Those numbers you called off are for an ECSB 5.3....as far as I can tell a Silverado 2500 with a 6.0 has never been tested by Motor Trend (I searched the site) so your point is moot. (BTW...a '99-'00 2500 is a 1/2 ton truck with a 6.0, a 4L80e transmission, and slightly beefier suspension.....kinda sounds like a psuedo-VHO doesn't it)
I'm really sorry if your 5.3 is slower than my 6.0.....39 extra cubic inches can do that sometimes
And....NO, I DIDN'T have to put it in 4wd to hang with the SS off the line, throttle modulation is a wonderful thing.....sometimes a full-throttle blast off the line is pointless
If you want to start a fight here I'll gladly continue this until the thread gets locked....but it really seems pointless to me to do so, I beat an SS...good for me, I DIDN'T beat your friends SS so that conversation is moot as well.
On a more constructive note here....have you considered having that PCMforLess tune checked, I've seen alot better numbers out of that cam and very similar combos
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damn 15.32 stock!!!! and i remember reading this real old truck trend magazine back in 1999 which tested the 4x4 fi50 the ram 4x4 the tundra 4x4 and the silverado 4x4 and it had a 0 to 60 time of 7.4 seconds , that was the reason i bought my trucks ehhehe.
#13
Originally Posted by CAMMIN03'
He was running a 14.89 with a tune and conservative tune..... He should be in the high 13's easy.... its hard to believe that you ran a 15.3 stock...
I saw some statistics from motortrend of your 1999 ecsb running 0-60 in 8.2 sec
and the SS being around a 7.1 0-60 time....
The 1999 motortrend preformance specs shows a stock of 16.8 sec. @ 84.2mph
Thats 1.5secs under motortrend..
Your running faster stock with less HP than I am now with all my mods...
Its just doesnt match up...
And if the stock SS was running a 15.5@89, then how did you run a 15.3 stock with
around 60-75 less HP.... doesnt make much since... not to mention the only way you
could hang with one off the line is to have put your car in 4 wheel drive. but he still
woulda pulled you up top....
I saw some statistics from motortrend of your 1999 ecsb running 0-60 in 8.2 sec
and the SS being around a 7.1 0-60 time....
The 1999 motortrend preformance specs shows a stock of 16.8 sec. @ 84.2mph
Thats 1.5secs under motortrend..
Your running faster stock with less HP than I am now with all my mods...
Its just doesnt match up...
And if the stock SS was running a 15.5@89, then how did you run a 15.3 stock with
around 60-75 less HP.... doesnt make much since... not to mention the only way you
could hang with one off the line is to have put your car in 4 wheel drive. but he still
woulda pulled you up top....
Stock SS's arent fast at all. I have raced 3 different SS's up here. Same result every time. I usually led by a half a length to a full length.
Yelo, not trying to take anything away from your kill. I am up around Reno. Let me know if your ever up this way.
Erick
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Good Kill
He'll be buying speed parts tomorrow. Got his butt kicked by a 2500 HD 4x4
He'll be buying speed parts tomorrow. Got his butt kicked by a 2500 HD 4x4
#15
I wouldve been surprised if you didnt win. They are only RATED at the flywheel and its heavier vehicle. With just a tune I would think it would be comparable as GM seems to overate the hp difference in the LS1 corvettes and F body's as well as the 6.0 trucks. You also have an intake and catback with as you said a lighter vehicle.
Nice!
Nice!
#16
Yeah but I have beat an 99-02 4x4 HD..... Bad....... And I could never pull my buddies
SS when it was stock..... It that was true why wouldnt everyone just go out and spend 25,000 for the 99 HD 4x4, than spend 35-38000 on the SS.... Logic proves that the SS would be faster...
Plus you said you floored it behind him and then pulled 4 LENGTHS ON HIM!!
All you have is a tune and 4.10's and a muffler... oh and a 2-6hp increase CAI.
The 4.10's kill your top end anyway... Your stories not matching up here..
Thats good for like maybe 20hp...... ok so now your at 310 at the crank.. and the SS
is at 345.. With around 22% drivetrain loss... your somewhere in the 230-245's the
SS is around 270 now thats 20-25hp more.... Supposing everything is pretty equal in
terms of loss.... Now that puts him 20-25 more hp than you....
Ok so you raced him and pulled 4 truck lengths...... How with 20 less Hp did you pull 4
truck lengths on him.... Not matching up to me... I might be wrong but come on'
Now you can make fun of my mods all you want to.... Atleast im not on here lying
about Kills..... Trying to look cool to people you dont even know.. Its pretty gay
actually... 30rwhp from my cam is what everyone is talking about... Most people do a
pulley swap when they do a cam swap.. Face the facts theres no way you pulled an
SS by 4 trucklengths with just a tune..... Thats just how it is...
SS when it was stock..... It that was true why wouldnt everyone just go out and spend 25,000 for the 99 HD 4x4, than spend 35-38000 on the SS.... Logic proves that the SS would be faster...
Plus you said you floored it behind him and then pulled 4 LENGTHS ON HIM!!
All you have is a tune and 4.10's and a muffler... oh and a 2-6hp increase CAI.
The 4.10's kill your top end anyway... Your stories not matching up here..
Thats good for like maybe 20hp...... ok so now your at 310 at the crank.. and the SS
is at 345.. With around 22% drivetrain loss... your somewhere in the 230-245's the
SS is around 270 now thats 20-25hp more.... Supposing everything is pretty equal in
terms of loss.... Now that puts him 20-25 more hp than you....
Ok so you raced him and pulled 4 truck lengths...... How with 20 less Hp did you pull 4
truck lengths on him.... Not matching up to me... I might be wrong but come on'
Now you can make fun of my mods all you want to.... Atleast im not on here lying
about Kills..... Trying to look cool to people you dont even know.. Its pretty gay
actually... 30rwhp from my cam is what everyone is talking about... Most people do a
pulley swap when they do a cam swap.. Face the facts theres no way you pulled an
SS by 4 trucklengths with just a tune..... Thats just how it is...
#17
Damn. This guy is doing his own heads/ cam swap and probably most of his other mods as well and you, who doesnt know where to start on just a cam swap, are sitting here telling everyone that he is a liar?!
Your buddy has the fastest cam only SS in the country, fine, he didnt race your buddy.
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whats the big problem here.He beat an SS.They are not that fast,15's.I have stayed with them before in my 4.8 with the **** mods in my sig.As yelo siad if you can't hang with your buddys truck you might want to get your tune looked at cause something is not right. NICE KILL
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Damned teenagers!racing hotrod trucks through our National Parks you boys should be ashamed of yourselves.Good kill I hope you get your cam and heads done soon.
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..... It that was true why wouldnt everyone just go out and spend 25,000 for the 99 HD 4x4, than spend 35-38000 on the SS.... Logic proves that the SS would be faster...
That makes no sense at all, if thats the case (spending more money logically makes your ride faster) then why in the hell can a RCSB 5.3 2wd run just as fast or faster times than a SS silverado? And while you spend half the money doing so. As far as a Silverado SS goes they are only good for heavy modding (more of a apperance package) I would just rather have the VHO edition or if doing something like Parish did a RCSB 4x4. As far as stock performance goes the SS is overrated.
That makes no sense at all, if thats the case (spending more money logically makes your ride faster) then why in the hell can a RCSB 5.3 2wd run just as fast or faster times than a SS silverado? And while you spend half the money doing so. As far as a Silverado SS goes they are only good for heavy modding (more of a apperance package) I would just rather have the VHO edition or if doing something like Parish did a RCSB 4x4. As far as stock performance goes the SS is overrated.



